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RogerThat21 Mar 2013 10:01 a.m. PST

OK… what is the quote that Kiss Me Hardy was pulled from?

onmilitarymatters Sponsoring Member of TMP21 Mar 2013 11:20 a.m. PST

Russ Lockwood here at OMM (which just re-ordered Snappy Nappy)…

Thank you all for your kind words.

Interesting 'Welly' idea… :)

I did, in the original, original shareware version of Snappy Nappy, note I was working on a set of ancient rules I named 'Banzai Barca' …

I've also experimented with an American Civil War version of SN that I had labeled Snappy Bobby, but then I figured some would ask 'Bobby who?' – or – complain it was not a game about a London police beat. :)

My real point is that of sequels that use roughly the same mechanisms, altered for period flavor. In one respect, as a rules designer, I want to convey a heritage with a previous set of rules, but on the other, I want to separate the two because a different period *almost* demands different mechanisms. Otherwise, you're playing the same game with different miniatures.

Russ

Steve Wilcox21 Mar 2013 1:25 p.m. PST

OK… what is the quote that Kiss Me Hardy was pulled from?

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arthur181521 Mar 2013 3:14 p.m. PST

Russ,
Surely for ACW you need two versions; one for sale on either side of the Mason-Dixon Line? :)
How about Snappy Stonewall – no chance of that reference being misunderstood!

toofatlardies21 Mar 2013 10:29 p.m. PST

"Kiss Me Hardy" is possibly the most well known quote in British military history. Not just naval history, but military history per se. It comes from Surgeon William Beatty's account of Nelson's passing and records specifically his last moments. That passage reads as follows:

"Hardy came below decks to see Nelson just after half-past two, and informed him that a number of enemy ships had surrendered. Nelson told him that he was sure to die, and begged him to pass his possessions to Emma. With Nelson at this point were the chaplain Alexander Scott, the purser Walter Burke, Nelson's steward, Chevalier, and Beatty. Nelson, fearing that a gale was blowing up, instructed Hardy to be sure to anchor. After reminding him to "take care of poor Lady Hamilton", Nelson said "Kiss me, Hardy". Beatty recorded that Hardy knelt and kissed Nelson on the cheek. He then stood for a minute or two before kissing him on the forehead. Nelson asked, "Who is that?", and on hearing that it was Hardy, he replied "God bless you, Hardy." By now very weak, Nelson continued to murmur instructions to Burke and Scott, "fan, fan … rub, rub … drink, drink." Beatty heard Nelson murmur, "Thank God I have done my duty", and when he returned, Nelson's voice had faded and his pulse was very weak. He looked up as Beatty took his pulse, then closed his eyes. Scott, who remained by Nelson as he died, recorded his last words as "God and my country". Nelson died at half-past four, three hours after he was shot".

Of that passage the only bit that quite literally every British schoolboy from 1805 to 1980 could have told you was the single quote from Nelson, "Kiss Me Hardy".

For an American I would imagine the term "Nuts!" would have a similar resonance.

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