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04 Mar 2013 8:50 p.m. PST
by Editor in Chief Bill

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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP04 Mar 2013 8:44 p.m. PST

Sounds interesting… and cheap.

"Art of War games (publishers of the free Get Some: Fantasy Warfare and Get Some: Future Warfare rules) produce a number of epic campaigns and scenario books that are completely compatible with the GZG's Full Thrust, Star Grunt II and Dirtside II rules-systems. Most of the various campaigns use all three of GZG's rule-books to incorporate Fleet Actions, Battalion/Company scale ground warfare and platoon level ground warfare scenarios.

Most of these scenario books are literally dirt cheap, costing no more than $2 USD or $3 USD to download from Wargames Vault and well worth the money, even if you only intend to mine them for ideas rather than play through the whole campaign yourself.

What follows isn't a proper review (as I haven't played through or even read most of these books). It's more an exercise in bring their existence to the attention of people who might be interested…"

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Hope you enjoy!.

Amicalement
Armand

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian04 Mar 2013 8:49 p.m. PST

You must have missed the discussion on TMP:

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Bottom line: Not even worth the dirt cheap price, as the scenarios are poorly developed and the campaign system seems broken. Plus the art is in several cases stolen, and The Regiment series is an unlicensed rip-off of Drake's Hammers Slammers.

Interesting to see the new cover art for Rolling Thunder, though…

srgistjr04 Mar 2013 8:51 p.m. PST

LOL. These campaign books just keep popping up on here. Everyone may be interested in the reviews undertaken by our editor on some of these titles. Im sure you can find those threads elsewhere on TMP. The covers sure are pretty. Eddie

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP04 Mar 2013 10:09 p.m. PST

Yes, I had missed them Bill.
Thanks for the info.

Amicalement
Armand

Logain05 Mar 2013 1:21 p.m. PST

I've also purchased the first of the Ghost Wars campaign books when they first came out thinking what the heck its only a couple of dollars… I largely agree with the Editor, these are really not even worth the $2. USD After buying the first, I'd never consider purchasing another product from them, unless I heard good reviews from I trust. In fact even if they were free I wouldn't be interested.

Kaoschallenged05 Mar 2013 3:06 p.m. PST

I picked up a few of the first ones also. Haven't bought any since. Robert

thedrake05 Mar 2013 4:56 p.m. PST

I bought one of the first Full Thrust ones as well--save the $2 USD as you can develop your own for cheaper.
Was tempted by the civilian and raider ship books but just dont think they are worth it……

emckinney05 Mar 2013 11:51 p.m. PST

Bill, are there any art credits in ones you bought?

BTW, I alerted the artist to the original art for Rolling Thunder, which is why it was replaced. I'm sure that the new art is stolen as well, since the quality is far too high to be affordable for a $2 USD item.

Lead Legion06 Mar 2013 8:12 a.m. PST

Yup, I'd missed the discussion as well. In fact, less than five minutes after I had the article up, I got a PM on facebook telling me about the discussion going on right here about those products. That's why I put in a final paragraph on the edit.

Yes, they're pretty awful in many respects. But the concept of linking Full Thrust, Dirtside and Stargrunt games into a campaign is good, and they can be made playable with a little work. The main attraction for me is that the idea reminded me very much of the excellent Renegade Legion games from FASA, that allowed you to play out an interplanetary war from the sector fleet level right down to individual tank platoons.

I think the nostalgia is what attracted me to these books in the first place. If they weren't so damn cheap, I can assure you I wouldn't have bought any of them. Or even brought them to anyone's attention with an article on my blog.

Lead Legion06 Mar 2013 8:21 a.m. PST

Oh, incidentally. Now that I know about the copyright issues, I won't be buying any more.

Logain06 Mar 2013 8:43 a.m. PST

I agree it would be cool to see someone else tackle this sort of thing. For example, Battletech has some excellent campaign books. My brother and I played through the Sword and Dragon campaign a couple years back and it was alot of fun (despite being clunky old battletech).

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian06 Mar 2013 4:37 p.m. PST

Bill, are there any art credits in ones you bought?

No art credits in either book, in the (original?) editions. I find it interesting that his copyright notice only mentions "rules and text."

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