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| Aladdin | 02 Mar 2013 9:04 a.m. PST |
A question for more practiced scratchbuilders than me: I'm putting together a scratchbuilt 28mm ironclad model for a game being run at Historicon this summer. I picked the CSS Tennessee, which had armored 'plate' made of pounding iron railroad ties flat and layering across the superstructure of the ship. I'm looking for some sort of plastic card or similar that will simulate this iron cladding- something about the right width, not hard to cut, etc. Has anybody worked with anything in the past that would fit the bill and look goodon this ship? Any help or advice is very much appreciated. |
| Sergeant Paper | 02 Mar 2013 9:57 a.m. PST |
TIES? Not Rails? The ties are usually baulks of wood
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| Sergeant Paper | 02 Mar 2013 10:08 a.m. PST |
The casemate of the vessel is very strongly built, It is seventy eight (78) feet eight (8) inches long, and twenty eight (28) feet nine (9) ins wide inside, the sides of the vessel extending ten (10) feet from it on either side at the greatest bredth of beam The framing consists of heavy yellow pine beams, thirteen (13) inches thick, and placed close together vertically, outside planking of yellow pine, five and a half (5 1/2) inches thick, laid on horizontally, and outside of this horizontal planking, therethere is a layer of oak timber four inches thick, bolted on vertically, upon which the iron plating is secured. The plating or armor of the casemate forward is six (6) inches thick, consisting of three two (2) inch iron plates, of about six (6) inches wide each, and abaft, and on the sides five (5) inches thick, consisting of two (2) two (2) inch and one (1) one (1) inch iron plates of the same width. The yellow pine framing of the casemate is planked over inside with two and a half (2 1/2) inch oak timber laid on diagonally. The whole of the armor plating is fastened with through bolts, one and a quarter (1 1/4) inch diameter, with washers and nuts inside The casemate is covered on top with wrought-iron gratings, composed of bars two (2) inches thick and six (6) inches wide, laid flat, and supported on wooden beams twelve (12) inches square, and about five (5) feet distant from each other. Some of these gratings are ringed and fitted to open from the inside. There are ten (10) gun ports in the casemate, two (2) in the broadside, on either side, three (3) forward and three (3) aft. The forward and after ports, to port and starboard, are placed so as to enable the forward and after pivot guns to be used as broadside guns. The directly forward and after ports are on a line with the Keel. The ports are elongated and made just wide enough for the entrance of the muzzle of the guns in training, and only high enough to allow a moderate elevation and depression of the gun. The wooden backing is cut away on each side of the ports inside of the casemate, to allow the guns to be trained about one point forward and aft. The gun ports are covered with wrought iron sliding plates or shutters five (5) inches thick; those for the four broadside guns are fitted in slides, The sliding plates or shutters for the pivot guns are pivoted on the edge, with one bolt that can be knocked out, detaching the shutter, if necessary, and are worked by a combination of racks and pinions. You'll want something with tiny grooves 6 scale inches (lets make it simple,and assume 30mm = 6 feet, so you'll need grooves every 5mm) apart, and lots of tiny bolt heads. |
| Sergeant Paper | 02 Mar 2013 10:12 a.m. PST |
Here's a nice picture showing how the armor plates were laid. link |
| daveshoe | 02 Mar 2013 10:36 a.m. PST |
I would suggest looking at Evergreen Scale Models plastic sheets ( evergreenscalemodels.com ) . I use some of the siding sheets as ship deck planking. I'm sure you could find something that would work for armor plating ( maybe a the V-Groove siding sheets ) and something that would work as wooden decking. A lot of hobby shops carry their stuff. Dave |
| Captain Crunch | 02 Mar 2013 10:57 a.m. PST |
Thanks for the link Sergeant Paper. Paul |
| Aladdin | 02 Mar 2013 12:39 p.m. PST |
Yeah- slip of the brain. I mean rails, not ties. |
| firstvarty1979 | 07 Mar 2013 11:43 a.m. PST |
The heads of the bolts will be tiny even in that scale. Even the lines between rails and deck plates would be barely discernable. I would limit the modeling of bolt heads to only crucial points of the model where providing that flair is a big deal. Maybe you just stick with plain plastic hobby sheet (like Evergreen's) scored lightly at regular intervals corresponding to the scale width with a very sharp Xacto knife. |
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