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yorkie o102 Mar 2013 3:04 a.m. PST

Hello all,

Ive been cracking on with my Ancients re-base this week, and last night finished off the first units.

These were all based up for DBA, but ive made the switch to Impetus.

Heres the guard infantry unit, with an attached General.

Theres more pictures and info on the project here – link

Thanks for looking,
steve

gavandjosh0202 Mar 2013 5:27 a.m. PST

neat.

cry baby joe02 Mar 2013 7:05 a.m. PST

Very nice indeed.

Marcus Maximus02 Mar 2013 10:07 a.m. PST

Beautiful painting Steve, the painting is so stunning I'm sure they're 28mm? Are they? I also like you Kappadokian Army, a more obscure amry and it's nice to see one on the table.

photocrinch Supporting Member of TMP02 Mar 2013 10:46 a.m. PST

I've been considering a re-base as well. I have triple BBDBA 28mm Alexandrian and Persian armies that haven't seen a lot of use recently. My original plan had been to add enough elements for a game of FoG with them, and that is essentially done, but from what I've read and the one test game I played with FoG, I'm not sure the appeal would be all that great. What factors made you chose impetus over DBA?

David

yorkie o102 Mar 2013 11:08 a.m. PST

Thanks for the comments, the miniatures are Xyston 15mm. I chose Impetus because it is just a great game. DBA is OK, don't get me wrong, but its very simplistic, and the armies just don't look like armies….

In Impetus the rules are pretty simple, but very clever, there is a lot more to it than DBA.

The best part about Impetus (from a painting point of view) is the nice large bases. Your totally free to make a diorama on each base, if you want to. The troops don't all have to be ranked up in an artificial way, with x amount of figures.

Steve

dwight shrute02 Mar 2013 12:15 p.m. PST

Amazing … where did u get the shield decals from I want some for my Persians .. !!!

ancientsgamer02 Mar 2013 12:30 p.m. PST

DBX style basing works for Impetus too…

yorkie o102 Mar 2013 1:35 p.m. PST

The shields decals are from Little big man studios – link

I think that the base sizes were designed with accommodating the DBX bases, so you could just have 4 DBX bases together to make an Impetus unit. Which works fine.

Steve

Mithridates02 Mar 2013 2:22 p.m. PST

Steve

Great colours – I did like the Guard infantry with attached General. The Takabara also came out very well – especially their shields. We are playing Hail Caesar and WAB so options for Impetus basing are there as well.

Garry

Tarty2Ts02 Mar 2013 2:57 p.m. PST

Nicely done Steve, another Impetus army up and running…..good to see ( must look much better now ? ). Those Xyston chaps are very nice indeed, great paint job helps…..superb.
Richard

yorkie o102 Mar 2013 3:16 p.m. PST

Im planning on using these armies for Hail Caesar too at some point. Ill just need to either fudge the command rules, or just make up some more command stands.

Thanks Tartyy, they do look much better on their new bases.

Steve

normsmith02 Mar 2013 11:29 p.m. PST

very nice – inspiring.

badlydressedhob04 Mar 2013 3:56 p.m. PST

Lovely painting… I confess I too am a fan of those Kappadokians! :-)

One thing though, which I've come across time and time again… and don't get me wrong, both DBA and Impetus have their relative merits… but what's to stop anyone using larger bases for DBA as well as for Impetus?

It's something that in all 2o-odd years of DBA's existence still baffles me a little, especially when many repeated objections to DBA that I have come across seem expressed explicitly in relation to the small size of the element bases and the small numbers of figures which as you say – "don't look like armies".

I don't understand why more people haven't made the connection between DBA and simply using more figures on larger bases with revised (and proportionately larger) measurements/distances etc.

It really does make quite a difference to one's perception of the game.

French Wargame Holidays05 Mar 2013 3:51 a.m. PST

sweet work on those!

cheers
Matt

oldbob06 Mar 2013 12:49 p.m. PST

Very nice indeed!

King David06 Mar 2013 1:49 p.m. PST

badlydressedhob:

I agree completely. I thought of this before when considering changing from DBA to Impetus for that very reason. I'm not sure why this idea hasn't caught on with the community, but once I get an army on the larger bases I'll be sure to give it a go and see how it works out.

yorkie o109 Mar 2013 11:47 a.m. PST

Sorry for the slightly late reply, i have played DBA with larger bases, and agree that people should maybe try it out. I have used 6mm WOTR armies on a 60mm frontage many times.

Heres some of my Yorkists!

Steve.

Tarty2Ts11 Mar 2013 6:03 p.m. PST

That ! looks amazing Steve nicely done and some good DBA lateral thinking.
Nothing wrong with DBA as the others here have pointed out, good game and that it's still being played a lot says it all.

David

What factors made you chose impetus over DBA?

There are a few, but the biggest thing that sealed the deal for me with Impetus is that as you receive casualties ( loss of cohesion ) your ability to inflict damage on others is also diminished….this I like very much.

mashrewba23 May 2013 9:55 a.m. PST

Bigger bases for DBA -like this -works for Impetus too.
I really like both systems.
link

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