| The Pied Piper | 25 Feb 2013 7:16 a.m. PST |
Valiant Miniatures sell 25mm figures (I know they are marketed as 1/72), but has anyone worked out their actual scale? They seem more in the region of 1/60 to 1/65 scale. |
| Martin Rapier | 25 Feb 2013 7:23 a.m. PST |
1/60th seems a pretty good guess, certainly based on the Michelin men who comprise the British infantry set. I gathe their later releases are somewhat slimmer and shorter. Easiest way is to measure the rifles, but most model weapons are way overscale anyway. |
| The Pied Piper | 25 Feb 2013 7:50 a.m. PST |
Real shame as they are lovely figures – if you like fat-headed, bloated troops with oversized weapons, that is! |
| CPBelt | 25 Feb 2013 10:15 a.m. PST |
if you like fat-headed, bloated troops with oversized weapons, that is! In other words…28mm figures?  |
| The Pied Piper | 25 Feb 2013 10:22 a.m. PST |
Ah yes, I had noticed :-) |
| Ken Portner | 25 Feb 2013 11:33 a.m. PST |
Their actual scale is "too big to mix well with any other 1/72 figures, even the largish PSC". |
| 15mm and 28mm Fanatik | 25 Feb 2013 1:19 p.m. PST |
Don't take my word for it, but Valiant might mix with West Wind's Berlin or Bust figures, which are on the smaller side of 25mm. It makes sense because West Wind Productions offer a line of 1/60 vehicles to go with them: link |
| number4 | 25 Feb 2013 10:39 p.m. PST |
Valiant Miniatures sell 26mm figures (the US set is 25mm, all the others are taller – the German artillerymen being 26.5mm which is 6' 3" in scale!) The figures themselves are considerably taller than the average WWII soldier who was around 5' 6" to 5' 9", but their weapons are a different scale again – mostly 1/56th to 1/60th scale according to the folks at PSR who have measured them. |
| parrskool | 26 Feb 2013 4:44 a.m. PST |
The Brits and germans are very good figures but unfortunately I would not purchase any as they do not scale in with my existing figures and vehicles. It is a shame for me, and for valiant. I don't know what pocessed them to go to this scale in this WW2 period given the existing companies output in vehicles, etc. |
| normsmith | 26 Feb 2013 11:37 a.m. PST |
Nice figures, I could live with the incompatability with other producers if the range was complete enough to stand alone – but lacking the Russians makes it a no go for me. |
| Prince Rupert of the Rhine | 26 Feb 2013 1:13 p.m. PST |
I'm pretty sure the people behind Valiant had some connection to Raventhorphe miniatures and the Rapid Fire rules. As such Raventhrope stuff seems to scale well to Valiant stuff as does the Rapid fire Ready to Roll vehicles. |
| sausagescan | 26 Feb 2013 5:28 p.m. PST |
I love the Valiant figures. Keep them in separate units and have fun. Weren't the Germans all 6' 3" anyway? I have all the sets and loads of Britannia figs too. Not the same size, but all excellent models and no one seems to mind. I am preparing to do the RF Omaha beach scenario -- I need about 300 US infantry. Valiant was the way to go; I have two battalions of them on my painting table right now. Oversized weapons? Yes, thank god. Who wants correctly scaled weapons that break when you breath on them. Give me robust models that look great and actually stay together. |
| Hornswoggler | 27 Feb 2013 3:35 a.m. PST |
Who wants correctly scaled weapons … Me. |
| The Pied Piper | 27 Feb 2013 4:05 a.m. PST |
I do think they went for "wargames" figures as opposed to "model" figures, so more robust to cope with big sweaty fingers picking them up all the time! |
| number4 | 28 Feb 2013 11:35 p.m. PST |
A weapon doesn't need to be a scale foot longer than the original to be 'robust' |
goes beyond the straight line.