"Northern Association Horse Confusion" Topic

Hi all,

I'm trying to figure out what happened to Lambert's and Sir Thomas Fairfax's regiments of horse of the Northern Association. When Tom was appointed general of the New Model Army he certainly didn't take his regiment with him as his NMA regiment was formed from Cromwell's Ironsides, and his Lifeguard troop from Essex's Lifeguard.

As I understand it Lambert took over as General of the North after Ferdinando Lord Fairfax stepped down at the Self-Denying Ordinance. Then in the Spring of 1645 Poyntz took over after Lambert was wounded at Pontefract. In 1647 Poyntz's dubious past caught up with him and he was replaced by Lambert again.

So in 1644 Tom Fairfax had a Rgt of horse, as did Lambert, and Lord Fairfax had a Lifeguard troop. By autumn 1645 Poyntz had a Regiment and a Lifeguard troop (probably reformados). Then in 1647 with Poyntz gone, Lambert claimed a regiment of Northern Horse for his own and led it in the Second Civil War.

Any idea how this lot relate to one-another and who took over which unit from whom???

Can't really help; but yes, Lambert was very active in the north during the Second Civil War. Be careful not to confuse 'Northern Assoaciation Horse' with 'Northern Horse', the latter term usually applied to the remnants of Newcastle's horse that joined the Oxford army after Marston Moor. As you probably know.

Some publisher in the North of England brought out the diary of a Parliamentary cavalry officer involved in the Second Civil War, fairly recently. It might be of some help, but I haven't seen it, and can't remember title or publisher. Sorry.