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18th Century Guy Supporting Member of TMP20 Feb 2013 8:23 a.m. PST

Below is a link I found here on TMP but I've not seen it discussed under the Napoleonic Boards yet. I wanted to make sure that everyone who is interested in getting some really good looking 28mm 1806 Prussians has a chance to help get this figure line up and running.

TMP link

I am in no way associated with the group starting this project but I have been very vocal in asking other manufacturers to step up to the plate and these people have so please do what you can to support them.

Adam from Lancashire20 Feb 2013 8:44 a.m. PST

Thanks for the heads up. They look very nice so far. I really like the officer green:

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wrgmr120 Feb 2013 9:27 a.m. PST

Very nice figures, I've passed their information along to one of our group who is collecting 1806 Prussians.
I'm doing later Prussians by Calpe.

von Winterfeldt20 Feb 2013 10:57 a.m. PST

this is from a contemporary series of 1806, parade uniform however

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Spreewaldgurken20 Feb 2013 12:11 p.m. PST

Oh man, that's tempting…

Cheriton20 Feb 2013 5:25 p.m. PST

18thCG:

I wanted to make sure that everyone who is interested in getting some really good looking 28mm 1806 Prussians has a chance to help get this figure line up and running.

Much appreciated. This is exactly what I have been hoping for to go with my 1807-09 project using Victrix (1805-07 Russians as well), Perry (new 1807-09) et al. I take it they are "reasonably compatible" with above mentioned lines?

Der Alte's comment about "clicking on the link to see what this is all about" is well taken and appreciated.

TMP link

But the old mid-life brain "pffftts" (mine) are really clouding the issue thus far. What sort of commitment is being sought? Hard cash up front, sincere intentions, or something in between?

Can someone elaborate, so sorry to have to ask. Meanwhile back to the "1806 Prussian website" for a third, fourth reading; more if required. old fart

I am completely on for this project, BTW! thumbs up

Cheers,

guinness

von Winterfeldt21 Feb 2013 10:40 a.m. PST

This link is maybe of interest, showing all Prussian line infantry regiments

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Spreewaldgurken21 Feb 2013 10:54 a.m. PST

Am I correct in understanding that this is a "Flexible Funding" campaign, meaning that if you don't meet your goal, you nonetheless keep my money?

I'm very interested in this, but I've never used crowdfunding before, and I wouldn't pledge unless I had some guarantee that I get my money back, if the venture doesn't go ahead.

Personal logo Der Alte Fritz Supporting Member of TMP21 Feb 2013 12:49 p.m. PST

Sam, I agree with your concerns. If they have some masters or production figures now (and they must since they have painted samples) then I would like to see these go on sale now. I'm good for a few hundred to start with (60 figure battalions for me).

18th Century Guy Supporting Member of TMP21 Feb 2013 9:38 p.m. PST

Based on the response I got from their original thread it looks like they will go with whatever funding they can generate within the allotted timeframe. Then they start producing figures based on that and you'll get the amount you 'ordered' based on that funding model.

That's how I see it so if anyone else has experience with these crowd-sourcing/funding models please jump in to help us out.

Cheriton22 Feb 2013 5:47 p.m. PST

Der Alte et al:

If they have some masters or production figures now (and they must since they have painted samples) then I would like to see these go on sale now.

Yes I agree, that seems reasonable. Also I am still unclear on what "Locked" (or not) signifies?

Cheers,

guinness

18th Century Guy Supporting Member of TMP23 Feb 2013 7:48 a.m. PST

Cheriton,

My 'guess' on locked means that with the particular option you are looking at one or more of the figure groupings isn't available with that option.

As you look through all of the options you'll see different mixes of figures available until you get to the really expensive options where all are available and then you get multiples of ALL (x2, x3, x4, etc.).

That's how I see it.

Spreewaldgurken23 Feb 2013 1:00 p.m. PST

So does that mean: "Yes: if they don't meet their goal, they keep my money and I get nothing?"

If that's the case, forget it.

If I get my money back, in the event that they don't meet their goal, then Fine, I'll pledge a few hundred.

Cheriton23 Feb 2013 3:56 p.m. PST

Klumpenproletariat et al:

If that's the case, forget it. If I get my money back, in the event that they don't meet their goal, then Fine, I'll pledge a few hundred.

I wish I could pledge the same simply on good faith.

I have to agree with Der Alte, they would do well to begin selling (and shipping) as the figures become available.

They are chancing losing much possible good will in the event they expect:

If they don't meet their goal, they keep my money and I get nothing?

I for one would be decidedly disappointed to see this excellent range "miss the boat"…

Cheers,

guinness

VonBlucher23 Feb 2013 5:37 p.m. PST

Where were these guys 20 years ago when I would have rather done early Prussians in 28mm.

I would be all in on these if I didn't have so much invested in AB's.

Well best of luck to them as they look well done.

von Winterfeldt24 Feb 2013 5:35 a.m. PST

@Von Blücher

In my opinion the AB Prussians have a much better look.

VonBlucher24 Feb 2013 8:02 a.m. PST

@von Winterfeldt

I think so too. At the time I had moved back from 15mm Minifigs and was doing Foundry French Revolution. So I was looking for early Prussians in 25/28mm and AB released theirs so I dove back in to 15/18mm.

It will be interesting to see how well their cavalry and artillery come out though.

Marc the plastics fan24 Feb 2013 9:20 a.m. PST

Is this funding different from Kickstarter then in how people "pledge"/pay. get goods etc?

Musketier26 Feb 2013 6:36 a.m. PST

Normally I'd jump at this opportunity, but like Fritz I find the basic formula too constricting, and the additional options too complicated. Therefore, resolutely staying on the fence until some clari- or simplification occurs.

As an aside, among the planned vignettes I noticed not one, but two of "Prussians Looting and Pillaging". This is a staple of French folklore, probably well-deserved through later events – but was disproportionate looting (i.e. more than by the French army) a feature of the Prussian 1806 campaign in allied Saxony? Or is it just that there is some iconic 19th C. illustration of such a scene, as seems to be the case for most of the other vignettes?

Cheriton26 Feb 2013 11:14 a.m. PST

Musketier:

Normally I'd jump at this opportunity, but like Fritz I find the basic formula too constricting, and the additional options too complicated. Therefore, resolutely staying on the fence until some clari- or simplification occurs.

My position as well. In the event you missed it – as the Hobby News post in question has dropped off the TMP front page – Franck today posted an updated, though still incomplete, explanation there:

TMP link

Very much hoping he can sufficiently reassure us to invest in this enterprise.

Cheers,

guinness

18th Century Guy Supporting Member of TMP01 Mar 2013 8:13 a.m. PST

From what I've read, he did reassure us. No one will lose any money. They will get the figures they ordered and this will help to get this new line of figures up and running.

Personal logo Der Alte Fritz Supporting Member of TMP01 Mar 2013 8:59 p.m. PST

Update: I'm all in on this project. I've signed up for two levels so that I get about 180 figures, enough for three 60 figure battalions in my 1:10 ratio games. I really like the look of these figures and I have no hesitation in investing in the project.

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