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Trockledockle16 Feb 2013 1:46 p.m. PST

I was wondering if anyone knows what uniform the US airborne 6pdr/57mm anti-tank gunners would have worn. I understand that the guns would have been delivered by glider and the glider infantry wore standard infantry rather than paratroop uniforms. Does this mean that the artillery men wore glider rather than paratroop uniforms? Would the 75mm gunners also have worn glider uniforms? Thanks for any help.

Cardinal Hawkwood16 Feb 2013 2:00 p.m. PST

I think glider uniform would be it

Miniaturerealm16 Feb 2013 2:16 p.m. PST

Bear in mind that the glider uniform changed as the war progressed. By the ardennes offensive their uniform was the same as that of the other units. Not sure if this aplied too in September 44 for the drops in Holland.

ScottWashburn Sponsoring Member of TMP16 Feb 2013 3:21 p.m. PST

Keep in mind how the US Airborne divisions (at least the first two, the 82nd and 101st) were created. They took an INFANTRY division (the 82nd) and split the rifle regiments into two groups to form the cadre of the 101st. They then modified the artillery and anti-tank and AA and everything else to make it air transportable (except for those support elements that were to follow up on the ground). THEN, considerably later on, they added a couple of the newly formed parachute infantry regiments to each division. So, at their core, the airborne divisions were actually infantry divisions and the uniforms and personal gear would have been that of the standard infantry. The paratroopers, for all their fame and glamor, were just add-ons and in some cases didn't feel much personal attachment to their new divisions.

Kaoschallenged17 Feb 2013 12:22 a.m. PST

picture

"57mm antitank gun of the 80th Abn AA Bn in action,
during the Battle of the Bulge, Belgium, Dec 44"
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"American airborne artillery"
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"US Para artillery"
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Trockledockle17 Feb 2013 3:35 a.m. PST

Thanks to everyone. It looks like it's standard infantry uniform- certainly for the Battle of the Bulge. Any different views on Normandy? The picture Kaoschallenged posted is very interesting. If I'm correct it shows the British 6pdr with a muzzle brake and it looks like an APDS shell being loaded. I don't think many rules give this option to US troops.

ubercommando17 Feb 2013 10:26 a.m. PST

Prior to Market Garden the US airborne anti-tank gunners wore standard US army M1941 uniforms as they were glider troops. From October 1944 onwards the M1943 uniform became available and was issued to parachute and glider troops, although paratroopers added thigh pockets to the trousers. So, in Normandy, they wore US army M1941 uniforms.

donlowry17 Feb 2013 3:00 p.m. PST

Antitank gunners in the U.S. Army were not artillerymen. Those manning the 57mm guns would have been infantrymen, so, I would assume, in the Airborne divisions, wore ordinary infantry (glider) uniforms. The 3" guns were part of the Tank Destroyer Force and would not be part of an airborne division, although possibly attached to one when it was being used as ordinary infantry. I think they wore uniforms in the ordinary infantry mold also.

Jemima Fawr19 Feb 2013 5:14 a.m. PST

Trockledockle,

Yes, the US Airborne were issued with British Airborne 6pdrs, as there was little point in the US Army re-inventing something that the British Army already had in service. Yes, they did use British APDS ammunition, thanks to the joint US-British logistics organisation in 1st Airborne Army.

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