| JD Lee | 05 Feb 2013 6:42 p.m. PST |
My head is spinning with all the reading on this topic. I want to make a basic brown wash and a basic black wash. I have Winsor Newton brown and black ink and a bottle of future. My question is What is the best ratio of Future, ink and distilled water? Thanks |
| (I am Spam) | 05 Feb 2013 7:14 p.m. PST |
First, forget the water and make sure to put a glass marble in the wash to stir it up when you shake it. Second, a wash looks good on the paint it's used on so I don't find any ratio is good for everything. Heavy wash for dark colors like dark green but light washes for colors like dunklegelb. Try it out a bit and remember that ammonia will remove it however, also remember to gloss coat the mini first so the wash is not a stain. Flat coat when you are happy. |
| richarDISNEY | 05 Feb 2013 7:29 p.m. PST |
I have never heard that tip before Baddaski (the gloss coat). I'm gunna have to try that.
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| snodipous | 05 Feb 2013 7:40 p.m. PST |
I got fed up with trying to figure out the perfect proportions for my magic wash and bought the new GW shaders, Nuln Oil for black and Agrax Earthshade for brown. They are fantastic. I won't go back to Future / Pledge. |
| wrgmr1 | 05 Feb 2013 7:48 p.m. PST |
Baddaski, I actually do a clear coat of Future full strength then wash with colored Future. As for proportions, I experiment on a garbage figure until I get the right mix. I also don't do a whole bottle just a mix for the figures I'm painting at the moment. |
| (I am Spam) | 05 Feb 2013 8:13 p.m. PST |
That's best really. But most of us need some bottles simply ready for use. |
| bong67 | 06 Feb 2013 3:49 a.m. PST |
Hi, As a rough guide add 50 drops of ink to 50 ml of undiluted Future. Test it out on a white undercoated figure and darken by adding more drops if necessary. That's what I use. All the best, George. |
| Dynaman8789 | 06 Feb 2013 4:52 a.m. PST |
I use a 50/50 mix of future and tap water, future by itself tends to melt the paint off the figs. After that I add enough paint to get a good wash to that mix. (try it a few times to see what works for you) |
| Lobsterback | 06 Feb 2013 6:40 a.m. PST |
I use Dynaman8799's approach – but I only mix the wash and shade it for the figures I am painting at the time like wrgmr1. Bottom line – it's what works for you and the look you want to create. |
| CommanderCarnage | 06 Feb 2013 7:39 a.m. PST |
I've used magic wash in many variations for years and I've never had undiluted future melt paint on a mini. The only bad experience I've had with it is using it with decals. I go 50/50 water future and add some ink stir, add some more, etc. until I get the desired color. I use it as a way to make minis with a basic paint job pop not to not to create a subtle effect. I guess you need to decide what you want out of it before you mix. |
Marc33594  | 06 Feb 2013 1:44 p.m. PST |
Throwing in my 2 cents. Very happy with a 50/50 mixture of water and future. I am using Speedball brand acrylic inks. I mix the water and future in old pill bottles, works great and seals nicely. I add several drops of the ink and then test to see results. In any event the secret no one else has mentioned, add 1 or 2 drops of dishwashing soap! It helps break the surface tension and allows the wash to flow. I also endorse using the washes on gloss coated figures/vehicles. One last trick. Mix up some plain water and future to add to your wash. Over time some of the water/future mix will evaporate and you will find a greater concentration of ink then you might want. You can add some of the plain stock to refresh. |