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le Grande Quartier General Supporting Member of TMP05 Feb 2013 12:16 p.m. PST

Hi,
I dont mind clipping the Adler infantry off the sprue to base them closer together- but I was wondering if anyone might suggest a really viscous adhesive that might fill/minimise the gaps between individual figure bases as well as be kind of a 'press in place' fast method of mounting. It wouldn't have to dry fast, just be thick and sticky enough to hold the figures in position without support and/or having to file the bases flat. I was thinking some kind of adhesive caulk perhaps? Anyone tried this?

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian05 Feb 2013 12:22 p.m. PST

I don't think fresh caulk would have enough stickiness to keep the figures from tipping over.

Maybe Gorilla Glue? Aleene's Tacky Glue? Hot glue?

Personal logo Dye4minis Supporting Member of TMP05 Feb 2013 12:29 p.m. PST

Uhu glue. Made in Germany. Comes in a bright yellow bottle or tube. I even use it on my paper models. It's like super glue for paper! Thick enough to fill in those gaps.

le Grande Quartier General Supporting Member of TMP05 Feb 2013 12:46 p.m. PST

Hmmm…What about that 'Liquid nails' stuff that comes in tubes like caulk?
I had also thought of experimenting mixing white glue with some type of joint compound /spackle….

I guess another requirement is that it is paintable too..

fred12df05 Feb 2013 1:35 p.m. PST

I use Ronseal Wood Filler (it comes in a medium sized purple tub) and comes in assorted shades of brown. I quite like Walnut, as a good dark brown.

It is sticky enough to hold 10mm figures in place – and takes a while to dry so after sticking figures in place you can rework a bit to cover bases.

These figures have had a bit of dry brushing applied – the next step would be to add some flocking

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Swampster05 Feb 2013 1:49 p.m. PST

For the figures I used gel super glue. I have six infantry on a 15mm square base and would put 6 blobs in place followed by the figures. Each needs holding for just a couple of seconds.
Between the bases I ran thinner super glue then swished in fine sand.

LeonAdler05 Feb 2013 2:34 p.m. PST

le Grande Quartier General
Have at look at the basing web page.
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Ive had a try with basetex (http://www.magneticdisplays.co.uk/basetex-sand) and it works really well just waiting to get some of the green variety to do a proper test as all I have at the moment is 'mud' colour which makes the figures look like they are stomping around in a bog lol
Im sure similar compounds available over the other side of the pond. Just figured out the paint is made by Colour party Paints

fred12df Nice work!
L

whitejamest05 Feb 2013 2:43 p.m. PST

Grand Quartier General,

For the needs you have described, I would recommend using two part epoxy glue. It is thick enough to fill the gaps for you (if it's not thick enough at first, wait 30 seconds or so for it to stiffen a little more), and very strong. You can press the figures in to place and make sure enough of the glue is squeezed between the bases to fill that space.

Downsides are that you need to take more care not to be messy (since you have to mix the two components of the glue outside the tubes) and you can't dawdle too much after mixing.

Hope that helps – James

T Callahan05 Feb 2013 4:15 p.m. PST

I'd go with the Editor and Aleene's Tacky Glue. It's white glue (PVA) but very very thick. dries clear and the nice thing it'll hold Adler figure upright. I use it all the time for Adler.

Terry

le Grande Quartier General Supporting Member of TMP05 Feb 2013 8:51 p.m. PST

Thanks Leon- But far to involved a process for the numbers I am working with (4000+ Austrians @ 1:30 on company bases)
I went to our local Michaels store and got some Aleene's- going to give it a try on the morrow. If you r right T C I'll be able to keep the assembly line runnin' :)

le Grande Quartier General Supporting Member of TMP05 Feb 2013 8:53 p.m. PST

PS- Whitejames- the epoxy has all the right qualities on the base- but can't be used in large batches…and don't dawdle is right! It will kill you without the right respirator… lol.

LeonAdler06 Feb 2013 3:31 a.m. PST

le Grande Quartier General
I meant the part about the basetex, works really well.
L

le Grande Quartier General Supporting Member of TMP06 Feb 2013 8:25 a.m. PST

Thanks Leon,
I am going to try mixing up something right along those lines…
R

Zippee07 Feb 2013 10:12 a.m. PST

I use a thin strip of blu-tak (or similar), press the figures into that – it's enough to hold them upright and steady – then paint thin PVA liberally over the bottom half of the figures and base. Quick and effective especially for keeping Napoleonic's neatly ranked.
I then sand and texture the base just as any other.

le Grande Quartier General Supporting Member of TMP07 Feb 2013 10:21 a.m. PST

I discoverd last night that Aileens super thick tacky glue is perfect for what I need prior to painting…

DHautpol19 Mar 2013 5:59 a.m. PST

I second Swampster's recommendation of gel super glue; this is, in my opinion, the Holy Grail of 6mm basing. Just put small blobs where the figures are to go, position the figure, hold in place and count to ten and move on to the next figure.

Once the glue is set, I then fill in the remainder of the base with Basetex; I use the grass green one and paint the figure bases with the equivalent Colour Party colour from their paint range. Follow with a light dry-brushing of deep yellow and you're ready to go.

TamsinP19 Mar 2013 8:57 a.m. PST

I use a mix of Acrylic modeling paste and coarse texture gel (anywhere from 2:1 to 4:1 ratio) with some brown ink mixed in for basing my 15mm figures. When dry it holds them extremely well (I've dropped bases 2-3 foot and the figures haven't come loose) and takes at least 4 hours to set, so plenty of time for working it over the figure bases and adjusting positions.

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