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Personal logo Duc de Limbourg Supporting Member of TMP22 Jan 2013 12:36 p.m. PST

Why did the Scharfschützen of the grenzers used such an unwieldly lance/stutz for their rifle. Als light infantry it must be very unhandy

TMPWargamerabbit22 Jan 2013 12:56 p.m. PST

It was a rifle rest. A good photo of the weapon shows the "hook" like rest for the grenz to give aimed fire.

I guess if enemy got within HtH range… save the rifle, stab the opponent instead.

Personal logo Meiczyslaw Supporting Member of TMP22 Jan 2013 1:03 p.m. PST

This question showed up in an earlier thread.

TMP link

Apparently, the Grenzers needed the rest because their weapon was an over/under, with one barrel being a smoothbore, and the other being rifled, and the whole contraption ridiculously heavy.

(Edited to include link to thread.)

Personal logo Duc de Limbourg Supporting Member of TMP22 Jan 2013 2:42 p.m. PST

Thanks,
I know that it is used as a rest for the rifle but the old muskets had smaller rests. Plus the fact is, these scharfschützen were used as skirmishers

von Winterfeldt22 Jan 2013 2:48 p.m. PST

It was not only a rest but could also be used as defence against cavalry.
The Doppelstutzen – one couldn't fix a sowrd or bayonett on it, so the lance / rest for defence

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP22 Jan 2013 4:29 p.m. PST

I wonder how the poor soldiers felt about this brainstorm of their Colonel?

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