"Khurasan M1A2 SEP Review" Topic

Howdy!

I received some post today from Khurasan, and couldn't resist getting straight to the Abrams!

Did a little review and popped it on my blog.

link

Ben.

Thanks for posting. That M1A2 looks awesome.

nice review, thanks

If there 15mm figyres the scale of the abrams( or maybe the figures) is wrong.

Beautiful kit though.

Size looks spot on. Those minis are standing about 18" (in scale) taller on those crazy-thick bases.

Glad you like the model, Ben! Enjoy.

Seems to be a lovely model! Looking forward to Khurasan's Stryker.

Size looks spot on. Those minis are standing about 18" (in scale) taller on those crazy-thick bases.

Agreed: I hate thick bases :)

John T

Yes I think the thick bases throw off the size comparison. As someone who has recently purchased a lot of the Khurasan 15 mm Science Fiction models I can attest to the high quality of the tank kits. The Abrams in the blog post looks every bit as clean and well cast as my Mekanoid and Nova Republik models. Well done review and kudos once again to Khurasan.

Simple solution would be to put tank on 4 thick bases to level the playing field.

I am not to intrested in M1 but I will await Khurasan anticipated BTR80 and T55 with breathless anticipation :)

Even then it's worth remembering that the figurines are in front of the vehicle rather than alongside it so that will, by forced perspective, make them look larger.

That's one of the tricks they used in making the hobbits look so small in the Lord of the Rings movies. (Yes I watched all that bonus material.)

I have the print of the BTR-80 and it's a beaut. I haven't sent it to the caster yet for fear of overwhelming him with stuff as I've just sent him the MDMS armoured fighting vehicle masters to get those (finally) made properly. That's the Cane Toad APC, the Goanna tank, and the Taipan tank destroyer.

I'll be getting the T-55 and Type 59 prints soon and when I do will send them and the BTR in for casting.

When you combine the photographic angle, (especially as they are not only in front, but also looking slightly down at the figures) with the fact that the figures not only have their own integral bases, but are also mounted onto other bases, it's no surprise that the infantry will look slightly taller than a photo of a real soldier next to a real tank.

Of course having true 1/100 vehicles with 15mm (rather than 1/100 or 18mm) figures helps to counter some of that. ;-)

The other choice is we could distort the vertical scale of the models so that the height works out about right… or is that just a silly idea?

I was just offering my informed oppinion. I only crewed these in real life so what would I know right. And yes I realize the figures are on bases.

In 1:100 its quite easy to make vehicle dimension right ;D
And check them by ruler !

There are generally a few issues with that AWuuuu…

1. Published plans and dimensions do not always match up. There are often variations between the dimensions given and the plans (and not always in absolute proportion). When you have 3 sets of plans, all with some sight variation, which do you choose? Answer, the one that was easiest to find, as your customers will probably find that one too to check the scale ;-)

2. Dimensions are often not specified where they exactly measure from/to, eg is height to turret roof, cupola roof or maximum top of all boxes? Is length of hull, gun forward, to back of hull or maximum overall length?

3. Plans are often prototype variations, so do not always match up with the real thing. Some changes can be minor, some can be quite significant. The same, of course, goes for a lot of the available photos, which are not production vehicles in the field, but prototypes on manufacturers test tracks.

4. In 1/100 scale the tolerance for master making is often limited by the materials, i.e. you need to not only draw it to 1/100 scale, but also be able to cut/print it to 1/100 scale, and a slip of a blade or sandpaper by 1/32" can suddenly make a considerable (scale) difference.

5. Once you have your accurate 1/100 scale master, you then need to cast it, which generally means getting something rubbery close round it, then pouring something liquid into the mould, and is subject to any shrinkage as it cools.

I was just offering my informed oppinion. I only crewed these in real life so what would I know right.

No need to get offended. And you aren't the only one with an informed opinion around here. ;)

Nandalf, did someone step on that QRF Abrams? Looks like it was in an accident.

Or is that the way it's shipped to customers?

Thanks for the replies!

Yeah, blame Tiny Solitary Soldiers for the bases, I use to use pennies.

Both of my QRF Abrams are like that, I think Resin helps make it seem taller.
With the way "15mm" infantry are these days I often wonder if the vehicles we use need to be stretched like Flames of War to get the right feel.

Ben.

It's not just the flatness though, it looks like a dog's been at it.

Thanks, a useful review of what looks to be an outstanding model!

Never ordered from Khurusan before, but seem like good folk to do business with – I finally succumbed and put in a small order for 4 of these bewdies, and promptly get a response asking if I don't mind waiting for new models to come in or would prefer to immeadiately get set some that were set aside because of a small flaw on the turret front….now thats service!

(I've asked to wait, my modelling skills being what they are…)

Khurasan have always been great to deal with!

I've found them to be the Ground Zero Games of the USA :D

Ben.