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Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP04 Jan 2013 10:05 a.m. PST

I often joke that when something unique comes out, that "We must be in the Golden Age of Wargaming!"

But there i always something missing.
What do we need to get closer and closer, like an asymptote, to that goal?

Something silly like 15mm and 28mm Medieval Snowball Fighters? No.
And not in some obscure scale that nobody but you and some guy in Banff plays in.

Oh, go ahead and ask for Philippine Constabulary Winter troops in plastic, if you must. That's for you and one other guy in Mindanao.

No, something USEFUL.

Like …
Hmmmmm….

How about 28mm mounted jaegers in the AWI? Not at all useful in field battles, but quite useful for some interesting sirmish raids.
How about 28mm Hessian jaegers with amusettes?
How about 28mm AWI Brunswick dragoons, mounted, assuming that Breymann got some horses? I don't know how useful they would be, but I would buy them.

How about plastic 28mm houses that one would find on the road from Lexington to
Concord in 1775?
And of course, AWI British fusiliers wearing bearskins.

Nominate something that you would actually BUY, within 5 minutes of seeing it advertised on TMP./b>

Personal logo Ambush Alley Games Sponsoring Member of TMP04 Jan 2013 10:14 a.m. PST

A greater variety of 15mm science fiction civilian vehicles, wheeled, preferably, or direct thrust.

Shawn.

evilcartoonist04 Jan 2013 10:22 a.m. PST

A $20 USD 3D printer that engraves with excellent detail, leaving no flash or mould.

Personal logo Pizzagrenadier Sponsoring Member of TMP04 Jan 2013 10:35 a.m. PST

I won't be happy until I can do all of the varieties of WWII French in 28mm and their vehicles. And beakie Space Marines in plastic. And 40mm WWII…

THEN it will be a Golden Age…

Ooh look…shiny!

VonTed04 Jan 2013 10:42 a.m. PST

We'll be in the Golden Age of wargamming when I don't feel self conscious about my hobby, when I see it advertised on TV and can buy stuff at WalMart.
:)

Personal logo Pictors Studio Sponsoring Member of TMP04 Jan 2013 10:47 a.m. PST

A whole pack of Carlist casualties in 28mm. And plastic MKII,III or IV space marines.

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP04 Jan 2013 11:00 a.m. PST

10mm and 6mm ancient/fantasy walls, dikes, ramparts and bridges with room for 40mm wide bases. Pre-painted. And cheap.

The return of Man O' War, in inexpensive plastic.

Every conceivable 10mm force for Middle-Earth (including The Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales).

Jake Cutter and Jack from Tales of the Lost Monkey in 28mm. Seriously, nobody really makes a suitable miniature for either. Jake wears an unlined, leather Fighting Tigers jacket (no fur or shearling) and a "crusher" cap and no goggles, and carries a revolver (at most). Jack is a Jack Russell terrier with an eye-patch, not a large, hairy dog. Not to disparage the stuff out there— all very good— but they aren't really close to either Jake or Jack.

Huge cheap plastic fleets of spaceships that look like spaceships, not jet planes.

Retro- Flash Gordon spacefleets with a big variety of styles and ship sizes. There are some nice retro ships out there, but the variety is limited, and to my eye the main difference appears to be merely size of the sculpt. I want fleet scale, with Superdreadnoughts all the way down to fighters, and clearly discernible differences among the classes. A battleship is not merely a big destroyer. Oh, and in plastic. And cheap.

And every house is automatically built with a suitable gaming room with ample storage, a painting area, good table space, and a variety of optional decor choices— English pub, Bag End, Elegant Manor, Pirate Captain's Cabin, Dwarven Hall, WWII Officer's Club, Victorian Steampunk Dirigible/Submersible Lounge… something classy and understated like those. wink

And, yes, miniatures that need no trimming, filing, buffing or whatever because they have no flash and no mold-lines to begin with.

Personal logo McKinstry Supporting Member of TMP Fezian04 Jan 2013 11:00 a.m. PST

Full ranges available in 10mm for such periods as MAW and Boxer Rebellion.

Keraunos Inactive Member04 Jan 2013 11:06 a.m. PST

I'd like some Gold please.

Personal logo Pizzagrenadier Sponsoring Member of TMP04 Jan 2013 11:26 a.m. PST

We'll be in the Golden Age of wargamming when I don't feel self conscious about my hobby, when I see it advertised on TV and can buy stuff at WalMart.
:)

Says you. That's when I'll know the hobby is officially dead :)


Never been self conscious of my hobby. Not sure what that feels like actually…

Personal logo richarDISNEY of the RDGC Supporting Member of TMP Inactive Member04 Jan 2013 11:28 a.m. PST

Screw that…
When are we gunna be in 'The Platinum Age of Wargaming"?


Actually, I think we are there now.
beer

TGerritsen Supporting Member of TMP04 Jan 2013 11:46 a.m. PST

I think we are in it and have been for a number of years. However, to make it official, we'd need gold miniatures.

Personal logo ColCampbell Supporting Member of TMP04 Jan 2013 11:50 a.m. PST

How about 28mm mounted jaegers in the AWI? Not at all useful in field battles, but quite useful for some interesting skirmish raids.
How about 28mm Hessian jaegers with amusettes?

Maybe Jim "Der Alte Fritz" will add these to his Fife and Drum range. He already has a British amusette.

Jim

Personal logo Tango 2 3 Ditto Supporting Member of TMP04 Jan 2013 11:54 a.m. PST

A bag of holding so that we can store everything in there.

Now THAT would prove very USEFUL!

(my model work room and wargame room are starting to overflow with terrain pieces).
--
Tim

Personal logo Texas Jack Supporting Member of TMP04 Jan 2013 12:08 p.m. PST

I agree, never before have we had such choice in both range and scale, and the smaller scales are now so detailed it is really amazing.

That said, I would buy in a minute a Pendraken Army Pack for US Army pre-war infantry (Brodie helmets), complete with M2 medium tanks and the M1 combat car.
Then, as if that wouldn´t be enough, the same set for US Marines, with Marmon-Herrington light tanks. That would be cool! Are you listening Leon? grin

cfielitz Supporting Member of TMP04 Jan 2013 12:35 p.m. PST

And every house is automatically built with a suitable gaming room with ample storage, a painting area, good table space, and a variety of optional decor choices— English pub, Bag End, Elegant Manor, Pirate Captain's Cabin, Dwarven Hall, WWII Officer's Club, Victorian Steampunk Dirigible/Submersible Lounge… something classy and understated like those.

What, no Polynesian Tiki bar decor?

M103 Tank in 1/285.

GarrisonMiniatures Supporting Member of TMP04 Jan 2013 12:45 p.m. PST

Golden Ages belong to the past, you never know you're in one till it's gone.

panzerCDR04 Jan 2013 12:59 p.m. PST

In the Civilization computer games you get a notice that "X" culture has entered its Golden Age. When one of those notices pops up when I enter TMP I'll know we are there! ;)

21eRegt04 Jan 2013 1:20 p.m. PST

Guess I'll never get there. I just don't do impulse buys. But I'd like some Cossack war wagons with swivel guns. Working on kit-bashing some now. More plastic stuff, from SYW through WWII.

I'd also like to be able to buy 1/2400 ships by the class. So for example all the Trento class cruisers in one package. Doesn't work for Fletchers, but cruisers and up might.

Patrick Sexton Supporting Member of TMP04 Jan 2013 1:59 p.m. PST

A large variety pack of Somali civilians in 28mm.

Somali vehicle drivers and more gunners and crew.

15mm sci-fi civilian vehicles.

15mm science fiction infantry weapon packs to convert civilians to insurgents and for vehicle stowage (for want of a better word).

28mm Post Apocalypse "cavalry", along the lines of the movie Postman though perhaps less "regular".

iceaxe Inactive Member04 Jan 2013 2:46 p.m. PST

Almost there, based the the following:
link for Parzival

I always wanted to play African Exploration & pirate games, now I can. The missing thing I have is modern civis, armed (coming soon) & unarmed (maybe from the same set, coming soon, but I doubt it).

Personal logo Rrobbyrobot Supporting Member of TMP04 Jan 2013 2:47 p.m. PST

French 37mm Infantry Gun in 15mm. I'd like at least two, please.

Crucible Orc Supporting Member of TMP04 Jan 2013 2:52 p.m. PST

28mm Austrian pandour amusette team that are similar in size and style to crusader

or failing that, kneeling pandours that are similar in size and style to crusader.

I'd buy those in a heartbeat. the next closest alternative is to get perry Hessian jager amusettes and convert them. that would be a pain.

Personal logo Mserafin Supporting Member of TMP04 Jan 2013 3:03 p.m. PST

28mm Napoleonic Spanish for the "middle" years of the Peninsula War (1810-1812). Currently one can get early-war Spanish (1808 uniform with bicorne) and late (English-supplied blue suits), but hardly anything for the in-between period when they wore French-style uniforms with very bell-topped shakos.

But, of course, no one wants to buy Napoleonic Spanish.

The FOW people really need to get around to doing the Pacific. I suspect it would sell better than Viet Nam.

And of course we need complete lines of figures for the Bicholim Conflict, in multiple scales…

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skippy000104 Jan 2013 3:52 p.m. PST

I think 'Golden Age' is a obsolete term today. Ask yourself 'What is better now than when we started gaming?'.

Terrain availability
'Obscure' miniature ranges
Scale variety
Rules evolution
Hobby communication

That is what affected the hobby for me.

Yes, John I screwed up the punctuation-I will write 'Nebelwurfer 3.14+ times on the blackboard during TMP maintenance:)

kyotebluer than blue Supporting Member of TMP04 Jan 2013 3:58 p.m. PST

Shrug.

Wargamer Blue04 Jan 2013 4:00 p.m. PST

The Golden age of wargaming will occur when I can put my figures on a gaming table at home and they will be projected in hologram format to OFM's table in his home in the USA. His figures will be projected back to my table. And we can have a game in real time. And I do predict this will really happen in the next 20 years.

John D Salt04 Jan 2013 4:04 p.m. PST

It will be a true Golden Age when we have readily available, cheap, accurate 1/76th scale plastic models of the Sherman I, II, III and V, the Panther A, the Churchill IV and the T-34 1943 model. These are some of the commonest MBTs of the war, and it should not be so hard to find accurate models of them in the original WW2 wargaming scale.

Oh, and fling in a Pak 38 and an M-14/41 for fun.

All the best,

John.

Personal logo Don Manser Supporting Member of TMP04 Jan 2013 4:23 p.m. PST

40mm Armies of Winsome Warriors

Landgraft04 Jan 2013 4:35 p.m. PST

When I can build an all-plastic Napoleonic army, you can build an all-metal one and neither of us has to compromise on quality or cost.

That said, things aren't too bad just now either.

boy wundyr x Supporting Member of TMP04 Jan 2013 7:00 p.m. PST

- 6mm halfling archers
- 1/2400 ships of the Chinese treasure fleet (and what-if later versions)
- idiot-proof single (albeit large) book with colour illustrations for the entire Napoleonic era, including changes over time
- Sikorsky S.16 in 1/300
- Avro Arrow in 1/600 (this one at least has a chance)

Personal logo Ivan DBA Supporting Member of TMP04 Jan 2013 7:45 p.m. PST

Warhammer 40K in 15mm scale. There is a demonstrated demand for it, as quite a few folks scratchbuild or convert proxies, and a few small companies are making not-40K 15mm stuff.

Spreewaldgurken Inactive Member04 Jan 2013 8:24 p.m. PST

Can I be 13 again, and have nothing to do other than a bit of homework, staring at girls, and playing wargames?

SECURITY MINISTER CRITTER Inactive Member04 Jan 2013 9:20 p.m. PST

I'm pretty happy as things are.
Maybe a Jacobite army in 15mm, but not much else.

Grelber04 Jan 2013 11:21 p.m. PST

I'd buy 28mm historical (as opposed to the currently available fantasy) female Viking warriors. I'd also be happy to buy four 1919 Schneider 75mm mountain guns or two of the 65mm Saint Etienne 1906 mountain gun for my 15mm WWII Greeks.

Back to the initial question, I believe we owe the concept of a Golden Age to the Ancient Greeks, who believed there had initially been a Golden Age, which was succeeded by a Silver Age as things went downhill, and the Silver Age was succeeded by an Iron Age. So, when various delightful lines start to go away, we will know we have been in a Golden Age.

Grelber

Personal logo dandiggler Supporting Member of TMP07 Jan 2013 11:22 a.m. PST

When the lead pile I've been working on for 20 years paints itself one night!

ScottS07 Jan 2013 1:28 p.m. PST

When my wife announces that she's going to paint my Napoleonics for me…

THAT will truly be a golden age.

Black Hussar Miniatures Sponsoring Member of TMP23 Mar 2013 6:23 a.m. PST

There are already Hessian Jaegers with Amussettes! Try AWI123 of Perry Miniatures…

Timotheous23 Mar 2013 7:39 a.m. PST

My personal golden age would be when I have the time to paint miniatures again, and have the room to setup my own table and collect some of those lovely cabins from 4Ground for a FIW project, and finally make it to Historicon!

The point is, I don't have any desires for obscure, unobtainable miniatures or armies, I would just like more time to focus on what I have, to get more armies done.

MIDN Brady

iain191430 Mar 2013 9:51 a.m. PST

'Can I be 13 again, and have nothing to do other than a bit of homework, staring at girls, and playing wargames'

What that man said. Still feel thirteen (though I usually say 14), still stare at girls.

sumerandakkad Supporting Member of TMP31 Mar 2013 4:46 a.m. PST

Each generation is living in a Golden Age of wargaming. At least since I started in the 70's each decade has had an improvement in figures , rules, scenery, books etc. imho. How long it will continue is another matter.

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