"World War Z trailer - wow" Topic

This is a much better trailer for the movie, and makes it look much better than that first one:

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Considering how totally unrealistic the book's portrayal of the military is… and considering how when you watch any zombie movie you HAVE to suspend your disbelief that slow moving stupid zombies will not be immediately stopped by any sort of even haphazard military resistance… a "swarm" is pretty much the only way you can convince anyone in a realistic way that a platoon of US marines each with 210 rounds of ammo will not stop 1,000 zombies.

Super fast tidal-wave zombies- what on earth possessed him? As stated, they remind me of really fast ants, or maybe the robots out of the Will Smith version of I, Robot….

What, Fast zombies!!! Now that is a real scary thought…

I think Ed's comment was right on -- looks like a bug movie. Through the whole trailer, I kept thinking about the arachnids attacking the troopers at Whiskey Outpost on Planet P.

It is a zombie movie- make 'em jog, shamble, Waltz, Tango, sprint, skip, Wheel, drag or anything else and I will watch and not complain. I don;t see a movie so that it replays the book exactly. I would know the ending. Can't wait!

no…

I will still watch it, as with every other zombie film, poor or not, even with brad Pitt! I just hope it doesn't pave the way for other film makers to do this new "wave ant" swarm moving thing with zombies in the future in movies. It just looks awful. I have resisted the temptation to read the original since hearing the film was being made, so it won't be too bad for me to watch it with less bias, I really hate Mr Pitt as an actor, and that along with the tsunami zombies will kill it for me possibly but,some of the other effects look ok though, so its not all bad (just keep telling yourself its gonna be fine….)

I don;t see a movie so that it replays the book exactly. I would know the ending.

An interesting take on "film adaptations"…

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I just watched this another time cause something was nagging at me.

Notice when Pitt is out of his vehicle and the second cop is coming down the street there is two lanes of cars packed bumper to bumper. Then when he is yelling at Pitt to stay in his car the big truck doesn't seem to be having anything slow it down after hitting the cop? Just sort of weird. I wonder if the trailer skips something there or if your just suppose to forget about the other lane of packed cars?

Well I liked it. I thought the wave effect was excellent once I thought about it for a bit. Lots of fast moving bodies with no regard whatsoever for their own safety, all trying to get at the same thing would look like that. Maybe. Anyway, rule of cool wins out.
And what's with the dislike of Pitt? He's a damn good actor.

All movies about zombies have an aura of racism about them but this one is so blatant it's really offensive

Notice when Pitt is out of his vehicle and the second cop is coming down the street there is two lanes of cars packed bumper to bumper. Then when he is yelling at Pitt to stay in his car the big truck doesn't seem to be having anything slow it down after hitting the cop? Just sort of weird. I wonder if the trailer skips something there or if your just suppose to forget about the other lane of packed cars?
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Yeah,I noticed that too…

All movies about zombies have an aura of racism about them but this one is so blatant it's really offensive
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Are you serious???

Bob

Don't engage him. post stupid things on the internet.

I know that in Romero's zomie movies there is a great deal derived from social commentry of the age, but I fail to see anything in this one?

I'd like to know why you think there is an aura of racism in it?

Oh, and I just dislike Brad Pitt, I think hes an awful actor.

I love fast Zobies, better then the ultra slow type, but these do look too fast, a fast jog is purfect, when I watch Zombies that walk, I just don't feel that they could actually be fast enough to be a threat.

So now we are reading deep meaning into zombie movies, bought as a vanity project by Brad Pitt???

This really reminds me of Starship Troopers for some reason. The difference is ST didn't take itself seriously at all; that is what made ST a great flick. I don't get the same feeling from this trailer. It could be really good, hokey zombie tsunami and all, if it is clear that it's not a 'serious' piece.

ZOMBIES IS SERIOUS BIZNESS!!!;-)

Bob

When I was a kid zombies were slow and if they got ya, well, then you probably deserved it! Back then zombies actually did a service for the gene pool! :-)

considering in the book a zombie could'nt even walk up a set of stairs, this looks bad.

Yep – they're not zombies they're Zoom-zoom-zoombies!!!

Yes I am seeing racism in that trailer especially in the section where you see the zombie horde piling up against the israeli Apartheid Wall, a sequence carefully engineered to make the spectator (the white, western spectator) think: "Wow, those israelis were awfully smart at building their high, impassable separation wall to keep the mindless, violent, Palestinian horde away, it also serves well against mindless, violent zombie hordes!).

All the zombie movies play on the white man's fears of the faceless, mindless "hordes" of non-whites which overwhelm 'civilization' with their sheer numbers…of course when the zombie movie is directed by a dude like Romero (himself a progressive, left-leaning guy) this is actually SUBVERTED to show how the biggest creeps are actually the white guys who react irrationally or greedily to the zombie apocalypse (cfr. the posse killing the good negro guy at the end of the first movie or the journo guy who insists to defend the shopping mall against the bikers, causing the downfall of the survivors in the second movie…with the only survivors being the negro guy and the pregnant woman he decides altruistically to help in the end foregoing his suicide plans)…but in this movie it's clear they chose to play the trope straight and to allow the viewer to project his fear of the 'other' (be it the non-white, the muslim, the third-worlder) onto the zombie horde.

That's how I see it and that's enough to deem this movie racist crap.

God, how

Looks OK, just isn't WWZ.

I like it.

Read the book, while Hollywood has probably embellished it there is a chapter based in Israelthat forms the basis of that sequence. It's far from anti arab.

Yes I am seeing racism in that trailer…

First of all, I'm not about to declare a movie "racist" simply on the strength of a brief trailer alone. I think it's short-sighted and premature. The movie isn't even out yet, and I seriously doubt that people who have studiously abjured racism throughout their careers are suddenly going to throw a little stealth bigotry our way.

But there is subtext, and most stories are written with a conscious subtext in mind. Horror and sci-fi are especially so, with the monsters meant to be surrogates for some social or political threat. That's not a new thing, either. It's been an inherent part of western literature for centuries. Then again, people will often see the subtext they want, regardless of the intentions of the writers. Sometimes people will read completely opposite messages from the same movie or story depending on their own personal filter.

When I first saw the trailer, I did notice that shot and thought to myself that it's inevitable that someone will see a political subtext in it. It wasn't exactly subtle. Israeli soldiers standing on top of what appears to be the West Bank Barrier pouring fire into a horde of zombies on the Palestinian side as they came over the top of the bus at them. I think it's safe to say that people are gonna read things into that. Whether that was the intention of the writer, it's hard to say. And exactly what they read into that is also open to debate.

But, I think I'd like to actually see the movie first before I start jumping to any knee-jerk conclusions.

You see what is in yourself when you see things like that in a simple movie clip.

No you don't. That's just a tactic meant to discourage debate.

Sometimes a monster is just a monster…

@Moqawama:
There is such a thing as over analyzing essentially sci-fi/fantasy movies. I haven't actually seen one clear zombie face in any of the shots in the trailer, so I have no clue the racial composition of the zombies. And the only thing I was really paying attention to at the wall scene was the insane zombie pileup/ladder.

I'm really curious what you 'analysis' of a movie trilogy like Lord of the Rings is… ;-)

I haven't read World War Z, and from what I've read on wikipedia I doubt I'll enjoy it (I generally don't like so many perspectives in my books), but I have been reading/watching/playing with zombies for over 25 years in RPGs, books, board and computer games, movies, tv series, etc. Seen all kinds, but mostly the slow shambling kind, this kind of wave zombie I have never seen and find it interesting and cool. But I can certainly understand that folks are disappointed that the movie isn't like the book…

Jeez Cergorach, guess that approach makes it hard for you to read military history texts. ;)

I re-watched the trailer again, and the zombsunami effect – I was thinking that *maybe* it was as a result of a horde of zeds pushing up against the wall, which then collapses and they all spill onto the street looking like a tsunami – and Pitt and the Israeli soldiers are running from the wall collapsing, not the tsunami of the dead. Now I'm not trying to make excuses here, just looking for possible alternatives as to the where and why for that effect clip.

Certainly not what I expected and the link to the trailer posted was longer then others I have seen. Kinda like a Brad Pitt mini movie LOL.Didn't notice any "racism" in the trailer. And for those who may not be as knowledgeable as others well they just wouldn't see it IMO.And if I wasn't a military/history buff and gamer I probably wouldn't have known the "wall" was on the border of Israel and Gaza. The Zombies seemed too fast and were faster then what the book seemed to present and I too have read the book and will probably just wait for the movie to come out on DVD/Blue Ray or cable. Robert

McWong73 that is certainly not my regular reading material, but when it is, it is for research and certainly not entertainment. Entertainment for me is fiction, primarily sci-fi/fantasy. Reality is overrated ;-)

Were in the world are there still such walls in a populated area? Berlin was pulled down years ago, Chinese wall is not exactly smack in the middle of a population center. Are there others beside the Israel/Gaza one?

A new trailer -

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Like it very much Coabeous!.
Good find!.

Amicalement
Armand

Hey, I wasn't aware that it was Israel/gaza, I havent read he book, nor was my attention on the anything other than how bad the zomers look. I totally understand now you explained what you meant! Thanks!
I think that zombies have come to represent what people fear the most, so its probably the attitudes of those bigwigs in Hollywood land and their political/religious/racial attitudes being super imposed on the movie.
Maybe they thought that any controversy from themes used might get them more publicity?
Don't you just hate media when they try and sneak stuff in…

The Israel/Gaza wall is mentioned in the book. I was thinking the latest trailer link posted was to another World War Z trailer.I was disappointed.Here is a look at the trailer

Boiling Point: The ‘World War Z' Trailer Illustrates All That's Wrong in Hollywood
Boiling Point By Robert Fure on November 12, 2012 |
"It'd be beating a dead horse to gripe about Hollywood's reliance on sequels, prequels, and adaptations, but not all is right in the world with the recent release of the trailer for the World War Z adaption from star and producer Brad Pitt. I don't have a problem with Hollywood bringing books and other previously existing media to the screen – hell, I like it most of the time. It's cool to see a cinematic translation of something you know and enjoy.

Therein lies the rub with the World War Z trailer. It doesn't appear to be a translation of something people know and enjoy. I say "people" and not myself since I actually found World War Z to be a fairly big disappointment, but that doesn't mean I wasn't hoping for an excellent zombie movie, based however it may be on the failed execution of a great premise".

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Robert

I think it looks VERY good.

All the zombie movies play on the white man's fears of the faceless, mindless "hordes" of non-whites which overwhelm 'civilization' with their sheer numbers

Yeah and that isn't racist rhetoric or a political comment at all is it?

As a huge fan of Dawn of the Dead (2004) and Left 4 Dead 1 and 2, I really liked the trailer and will watch the movie!

I got a different feeling from the israeli wall thing (and something that is actually much better/more accurate social commentary if you think about it).

Here's what I got:
Wow, too bad for the Palestinians that they made a wall so they can't escape the West Bank into Israel.
Wow, good thing for the Israelis that they made a wall and pulled forces back into Israel so that they don't get killed.

Obviously this makes sense in the context of a zombie movie (I feel like the whole "we kept a little bit of civilization walled off but we left the people still in the zombie areas to die" thing has been done before in fact) but it also works as commentary on the wall.

Should note that people don't make nearly the same fuss over border fences and such in the rest of the world but given the wall cuts off people from their work, studies, and sometimes even land (a few farmers on the border) it is understandable, but I wouldn't go so far to say the wall has anything to do with apartheid or racism. You know who doesn't support the wall? Israeli settlers.

Enough of this political crap! You are trying to find a black cat in the dark room, when there is no cat there!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"All the zombie movies play on the white man's fears of the faceless, mindless "hordes" of non-whites which overwhelm 'civilization' with their sheer numbers"

Wtf, lol.

I love Zombie movies. I never knew I was a racist because of that. I guess Ill have to break the news to my not-caucasian wife of 21 years.

"All the zombie movies play on the white man's fears of the faceless, mindless "hordes" of non-whites which overwhelm 'civilization' with their sheer numbers"

Wtf, lol. Have you even read the book Dude? I seriously doubt it.

I love Zombie movies. I never knew I was a racist because of that. I guess Ill have to break the news to my not-caucasian wife of 21 years.

I was not aware that I had "white man's fears" or that I was now a racist for enjoying the zombie genre.

This white man's fears are played to by the relentless attacks of the zeds, the sheer scope of the disasters and the "world after men" look of the landscape. I think a 747 that has been force landed on a crowded expressway makes for a very cool and very creepy scene.
Never gave any of it a racial thought.

Sir, the scenes show a force that is well nigh unstoppable and completely unreasoning. They don't show Palestinian zeds or Bronx zeds, they show zeds.

If you don't like the trailer, you don't like it. No need to tart up the reason why.

Have great weekend,

Pat

Zombie Neuroscientist Explains the Ant-Like Behavior of World War Z's Running Dead

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C

Not being political but some claiming racism kinda goes against some of the movies in the genre where Blacks are the main characters. In fact most in movies I have seen 99% of the Zombies are White LOL. Robert

"Unlike previous ‘fast zombie' flicks like 28 Days Later wherein the zombies are basically acting independently of one another, the zombies here are showing what look like intelligent behaviors: clustering, swarming and even coming together to form a ‘zombie ladder,'" Voytek, a neuroscience Ph.D. who is on the advisory board of the Zombie Research Society, said in an e-mail to Wired."

The humans in 28 Days Later and 28 Weeks Later are infected with a rage disease and aren't dead though. They die through starvation eventually. Robert