"Raid on Iran?" Topic
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tuscaloosa | 28 Sep 2012 11:17 a.m. PST |
There's a very interesting potential scenario discussed here that had not occurred to me – what if Israel conducted a raid on Iran's nuclear facilities instead of bombing them? link Now usually, commando raids make boring scenarios (imho), because they're supposed to be fast and overwhelming. If they were anywhere close to being balanced, it wouldn't be a good commando raid. But the potential scenario discussed here sounds like it could be interesting to game out. Maybe FoF? What would work at skirmish scale? |
Uesugi Kenshin | 28 Sep 2012 12:10 p.m. PST |
Good article Bro. I for one forsee a combined air strike/ ground raid combo with air and missile attacks being followed up by boots on the ground to ensure destruction of the sites. Only time will tell. |
Milites | 28 Sep 2012 12:51 p.m. PST |
I'm wondering what the Iranian contingency plan is for moving scientists to safe areas during an attack? You could have a 'Dirty Dozen' style game, where Israeli Mossad/SF teams know where these scientists will be moved to and try to intercept them. Their Iranian security detail would try to counter any such attacks. Perhaps operators from other countries (on both sides) could add an extra dimension. You might even have some scientists targeted for extraction, as they are Israeli agents, forcing the Mossad player to, not just bow everything up. For all the medias fixation on the actual Iranian nuclear facilities hardened defences, it's Achilles heel has always been the scientists who spearhead the programme. Mr Bull found that out to his cost, as did the limpet bomb/bike combo victim. As for an operation Massada type suicide raid (most SF operators will know it is a one way trip, like operation Mikado), I wonder if bases could be set up in Iran, as a 'Desert One' scenario? Having been under the flight path of IAF C-130's, performing NOE flying, blacked out, I would never underestimate their capabilities or resolve. If/when this operation happens I think it will arive on a wave of kinetic and cyber strikes throughout Iran. The article correctly mentions the Israeli penchant/necessity for, not only militarily triumphing, but scaring the crap out of its opponents. |
vojvoda | 28 Sep 2012 12:54 p.m. PST |
For a second I thought you were refering to "THE" raid on Iran back in 79. But I really do not see anyone putting boots on the ground. VR James Mattes |
Milites | 28 Sep 2012 1:02 p.m. PST |
No, not THAT raid, but I'm sure the Israelis have studied the operation in great detail. Perhaps they will just take off and nuke the site[s] from orbit! |
Mako11 | 28 Sep 2012 2:24 p.m. PST |
Rumor has it they have Stealth Blackhawks, and have used them to insert some agents in country already, so it would be possible. Supposedly, they've put things off 'til next Spring, after the election. Of course, that's exactly what I'd say to gain some tactical surprise, if I was planning an attack in the next few weeks. |
Uesugi Kenshin | 28 Sep 2012 5:47 p.m. PST |
"Supposedly, they've put things off 'til next Spring, after the election." Definitely. |
troopwo | 28 Sep 2012 7:11 p.m. PST |
I actually see cooperation and participation from some of the gulf states this go around. |
Mako11 | 28 Sep 2012 8:16 p.m. PST |
The Saudis are definitely on board, and I suspect a lot of the other, smaller ones as well, since they don't want to see Iran expanding upon their sphere of influence. |
Milites | 29 Sep 2012 3:08 a.m. PST |
The US could always let Israel use Afghanistan as a base of operations, to set up forward operating bases in Iran, following the GW model. |
CFeicht | 29 Sep 2012 9:57 a.m. PST |
kyotebluer than blue I suspect you're out of luck there. Israel can't wait until 2015, and our troops in Afghanistan may be a very key part of the coming conflict with Iran. |
gamertom | 29 Sep 2012 4:27 p.m. PST |
"But when it comes to actually attacking Iran, what Israel won't tell us is what they plan to do, or how they plan to do it. It's their most closely guarded secret." Israel's refusal to share its plans has persisted despite repeated requests from Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, a senior Pentagon civilian said. Well no d'uh. How long after the Israel briefing would it take for the plan to show up in the media? Don't blame them a bit. What is interesting to consider is just how much deliberate disinformation is being spewed by all the involved parties. |
Tgerritsen | 29 Sep 2012 7:35 p.m. PST |
Will it involve Chuck Norris, Lee Marvin and a bunch of tricked up motorcycles with machineguns and rockets? |
Uesugi Kenshin | 02 Oct 2012 2:24 p.m. PST |
Interesting possible twist in this story: link |
Mako11 | 02 Oct 2012 5:22 p.m. PST |
"How long after the Israel briefing would it take for the plan to show up in the media?". Exactly! They're smart enough to know who they can, and cannot trust. The Azerbaijan option is interesting, but I think it far more likely the Saudis would provide aerial refueling jets, AWACS support, and possibly even CAP fighter escort. It might even be possible for the Israeli jets to land at forward bases in Saudi Arabia, refuel there, conduct their attacks on Iran, and then fly home without the need for refueling, in many cases (aerial tankers would probably be on standby, in case they needed topping off). If they choose to do that, they'll probably have their markings painted over, or use the markings of other nations who fly the same aircraft, e.g. US or Saudi markings, so as not to receive undue attention. The Saudis were literally begging the US to halt the Iranian nuke program awhile back, so no doubt they are probably still very concerned by it. Also, Jordan's government will look the other way as the Israeli jets overfly their territory. Alternatively, they could overfly the Sinai desert as well, if they want to avoid Jordan, for a less direct route of attack on Iran, while still overflying Saudi Arabia. Probably not an issue, if they use forward bases in Saudi, or get aerial refueling, but it does add considerably to the overall length of the raid otherwise. |
Uesugi Kenshin | 27 Nov 2012 12:50 p.m. PST |
Latest update, even though the info released seems to be a few years old: link |
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