Help support TMP


"Three WWIII Good Books" Topic


26 Posts

All members in good standing are free to post here. Opinions expressed here are solely those of the posters, and have not been cleared with nor are they endorsed by The Miniatures Page.

Please be courteous toward your fellow TMP members.

For more information, see the TMP FAQ.


Back to the Cold War (1946-1989) Message Board

Back to the Blogs of War Message Board

Back to the Modern Scenarios Message Board


Areas of Interest

General
Modern

Featured Hobby News Article


Featured Link


Featured Ruleset

Corps Commander


Rating: gold star gold star gold star gold star gold star gold star gold star 


Featured Workbench Article

Back to Paper Modeling - with the Hoverfly

The Editor returns to paper modeling after a long absence.


Current Poll


3,589 hits since 6 Sep 2012
©1994-2024 Bill Armintrout
Comments or corrections?

Mike G06 Sep 2012 3:25 p.m. PST

Three good books that one can can scenario ideas from.


link

Mike

French Wargame Holidays06 Sep 2012 3:31 p.m. PST

nice Mike, I have not read any of those.

Just finished "Fist of God" myself, a very good read based on the 2nd Iraq war

cheers
Matt

boy wundyr x06 Sep 2012 4:10 p.m. PST

Thanks – I have Red Thrust, and First Clash is on my mental wishlist, but Arctic Strike is new to me, so I'll look for that on my haunts of used bookstores.

galvinm06 Sep 2012 4:13 p.m. PST

I have First Clash. A pretty good book. Have not heard of the others. Will have to look out for those. Thanks for the tip Mike G from Mike G.

Mike G06 Sep 2012 4:29 p.m. PST

Gosh, I just read my original post. Sorry for the typo, I was up at 3:30AM so I could drop my Daughter and my Mother at the airport.

Mike

Sparker07 Sep 2012 1:46 a.m. PST

Thanks mate – 2 outa 3 aint bad – I must get the Arctic Storm one (3 years out of uniform I ought to be able to think about the polar region without shivering – no – there I go – Bleeped texting Freeeeezing!)

Also well worth a read are Ralph Peter's 'Red Army'; Harold Coyles's 'Team Yankee'; and of course the bible, General Sir John Hackett's 'The THird World War', set in 1985 but actually written in 1978. As it set free world public opinion firmly behind rearmament it arguably saved the world from armageddon…Its a pretty good read too!

First Contact! by Kenneth Macksey MC is also pretty good – The Canadian Mech Bde saves the free world! (Which I'm sure they would have done, God Bless Em and their Leo I tanks…)

RJ Smith07 Sep 2012 9:03 a.m. PST

Thanks for the suggestions. Naturally as a 4CMBG alumni I have First Clash, including the original in CF Pam format :) but will now go add the others to my Amazon wishlist.

Lookingglassman08 Sep 2012 6:39 p.m. PST

Arctic Strike is actually one out of four books in a series called "A visual novel of tomorrow's war". The other ones are Armor at Fulda Gap – Dealing with an M1A1 tank unit in WW III, Strike Eagles – F15s battle it out with the commies and Helicopter Aces – Helicopters leading the charge. All four of these books use the same scenario, but are set in different locations of the same War against the Russians. They are pretty good and quick reads and each are filled with numerous pictures of the "battles". If you can buy the whole set I highly recommend it.

CAG 1926 Sep 2012 4:23 a.m. PST

For Cold War Gone Hot ideas, some of the smaller enagements in the James Rouch 'The Zone' series would be interesting.

Ralph Peters book Red Army (already recommended by Sparker) has some interesting smaller enagagements; the Forward Security Element battle for the farm in particular.

Cauldron by Larry Bond has some useful engagements for slightly different dynamics in the C20/21

Si

Tony Aguilar26 Sep 2012 9:18 a.m. PST

I remember enjoying "Team Yankee" a while ago (Early '90s?) and "Red Storm Rising" as well.

Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP27 Sep 2012 5:43 p.m. PST

Good rec's all. Thanks.

I too enjoyed Red Army.

fozzybear29 Sep 2012 6:26 p.m. PST

Red Army is one of my favorite books, re-reading it now actually, I also liked "The THird World War, August 1985" but Thrust, and First Clash are new to me .. i must get these.

BattlerBritain01 Oct 2012 2:17 a.m. PST

'The Zone' series by James Rouch was also a good source of scenarios.

Chatticus Finch31 Oct 2012 4:49 a.m. PST

Another brilliant book is called TOTAL WAR 2006. Yes, it's date is a bit out, but it's surprisingly good for the read you get!

link

RJ Smith31 Oct 2012 7:20 p.m. PST

Agree Total War is well worth the read. I kept mentally moving everything up 10 years so it begins in 2011 and culminates in 2016 which considering present and recent events makes it seem rather chilling.

Mike G02 Dec 2012 2:07 p.m. PST

Put three more reviews on my blog.

link

Mike

seandady30 Dec 2012 11:37 a.m. PST

I've just read 'Chieftains' by Bob Forrest. Long out of print I believe, but now on kindle. Interesting as it's mostly from the British point of view. I enjoyed it very much.

Lookingglassman31 Dec 2012 11:49 p.m. PST

The War After Armageddon by Ralph Peters is a interesting read. Not to give too much away the Arabs explode some nukes in Europe and the US. They also take over Israel. The US elects an ultra conservative right wing religious govt that decides it was going to take back the "Holy Land" from the Arab armies so it launches an invasion of Israel.

The main focus of the book is between the two generals commanding the different US corps. One US corps is comprised of Marine and Army units kind of like the "red haired step child" of the military. This corps general is looked down upon and his troops use old equipment. The other corps is a "newer" corps led by a charismatic general. This corps is pretty much what the SS was to Hitler. They have the best equipment and are seen as the "elite" of US military forces. Neither corps gets along with each other even though they are working toward the same goal.

There is plenty of ground action and one thing I like about the book is Peters uses my old tank battalion I went to Desert Storm with, 2-34 Armor, part of the 1st Infantry Division in this book. It leads a charge during one battle scene.

Overall it is a good read and really chilling, especially the end.

Lookingglassman31 Dec 2012 11:56 p.m. PST

Also check out the "Armored Corps" three book series by Peter Callahan. It is about a M1 Abrams tank platoon in a future Korean War. Very good books because this author actually got assistance from REAL tankers, such as myself, while writing these books. They are paperbacks, but they are very, very accurate depictions of what an Abrams tank platoon does in real life and some of the scenarios he uses are actual ones that happened in real life (the part of the third novel where the tank won't start and one of the crew gets out and opens the "b**** plate" and jiggles the starter to get it going is a real incident that happened on a tank range at Ft Riley in 1989. My tank was behind the NCO who did it and I was watching and laughing the whole time).

troopwo Supporting Member of TMP20 Jan 2013 3:54 p.m. PST

The "Armored Corps" series is very good.

Sparker, Kenneth Macksey also wrote a sequel to "First Clash", called, "Counter-Attack". I don't know if it ever made it past army document though.

zaevor200014 Oct 2014 6:54 p.m. PST

I also recommend Red Army by Ralph Peters.

Outstanding book and one that you can easily pull several scenarios from.

I especially liked the action in Hameln.

Frank

capncarp15 Oct 2014 4:42 p.m. PST

The Texas-Israeli War: 1999 is an interesting twist.

Lookingglassman05 Nov 2014 2:31 p.m. PST

The X-Mas War and Jihad War in 2036, Oil Commission and Lake Aral, Total War 2006 are also good books.

Hayden06 Feb 2015 11:57 a.m. PST

Also recommending Cheftians and Red Army both really good book although i liked Cheftians more….

RJ Smith12 Jun 2015 6:38 a.m. PST

I would also recommend a fairly new trilogy set during the1980's and dealing with GSFG vs BAOR/NORTHAG ( with some scenes set elsewhere ). They are written by a former Brit Officer who I believe was BRIXMAS

The Red Effect ( book 1)
link

The Black Effect ( book 2)
link

The Blue Effect ( book 3)
link

The Author's Website
harveyblackauthor.org

Jubilation T Cornpone14 Jun 2015 2:25 p.m. PST

I also can't recommend that trilogy strong enough either. Very readable. Harvey Black writes very convincingly.

Sorry - only verified members can post on the forums.