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drgarlic Inactive Member22 Aug 2012 8:21 a.m. PST


I know about the expensive Euro brands and the old Houston's ships line, but does anyone know of any prospects for someone starting a 1:1200 line of pre-dreanoughts reasonably priced for the USA market?!

Dr G

Personal logo Virtualscratchbuilder Supporting Member of TMP Fezian22 Aug 2012 8:27 a.m. PST

I feel your pain. One of the big misses out there in the industry. Might make a good kickstart.

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP22 Aug 2012 8:27 a.m. PST

There are some nice 1/2400 from Viking Forge but I have heard nothing of 1/1200. You have your choices listed unless you can persuade someone new to take the plunge.

Big Red Supporting Member of TMP22 Aug 2012 9:07 a.m. PST


Would you like to make some 1/1200 scale masters?


Schogun22 Aug 2012 9:31 a.m. PST

I agree. I want to do a small naval action scenario and just 6-7 Navis/Neptune ships will cost me more than $300. USD

I may have to make my own from balsa wood and plastic card, but they won't have the detail that Navis has.

I can't blame Navis though…

Bill Rosser Supporting Member of TMP22 Aug 2012 12:42 p.m. PST

I would be interested in these as well.

Personal logo The Beast Rampant Supporting Member of TMP22 Aug 2012 12:45 p.m. PST

I, too would like to see VSB get something in production.

Finknottle Inactive Member22 Aug 2012 1:23 p.m. PST

I've seen a few 1200 pre-dreads up on shapeways. Not the most detailed of models, but they weren't $60 USD apiece, either.

pink panzer24 Aug 2012 3:44 a.m. PST

Mick Yarrow does a few ships which you may find useful, including Schleswig Holstein and some early dreadnoughts (which could be adapted): link
And they're quite cheap!
Skytrex do some earlier ironclads: link

Yellow Admiral Supporting Member of TMP13 Sep 2015 9:34 p.m. PST

I stumbled across this thread in a Google search and wanted to note for future Interweb wanderers that most "Rapid prototype" pre-dreadnoughts from WTJ can be printed in 1/1500 scale, and a few of the DDs are now available in 1/1250 and 1/1000 scales.

- Ix

Brigman200021 Jan 2017 6:24 p.m. PST

1:1200 pre-dreadnoughts? is there still a need for these?

138SquadronRAF Supporting Member of TMP23 Jan 2017 10:08 a.m. PST

I like them. Even if I currently have smaller scale ships.

warren bruhn Inactive Member23 Jan 2017 3:27 p.m. PST

I would suggest War Times Journal 1:1500 or 1:1800 scale pre-dreadnoughts instead of 1:1200. There's a lot of detail on the 3D plastic printed WTJ ship models even in 1:2400 scale. So I'm sure the detail and look is even better in 1:1500 or 1:1800 scales.

Captain Gideon24 Jan 2017 9:12 a.m. PST

I have a small number of 1/1250th scale Russo-Japanese War ships and I like them as well.

I have some of the Russian's from Mercator which include a Borodino among other Baltic Fleet and Pacific Fleet ships,in addition I have some Japanese ships from Navis.

But my scales that I mostly use are 1/2400th,1/3000th and 1/6000th.


Ottoathome Inactive Member29 Jan 2017 2:38 p.m. PST

You can make them easy enough out of balsa, basswood, brass, card stock and music wire. I have a few of the late Terry Manton's ships which he made beautiful hand made models. It's a lot of fun to do. Done dreadnoughts too! Not too hard. Did several dreadnoughts too!

I only use 1:1200

bobblanchett04 Mar 2017 5:56 p.m. PST

The WTJ in larger scales are truly things of beauty..

A friend has 1/1800 and they're fantastic.

I'm not getting any more 1/3000 and will switch to 1/1800

scouts19508a12 Mar 2017 6:26 p.m. PST

If your on facebook look up "black smoke blue water" they make a bunch of 1/1000 resin scale ships and a pretty simple set of rules and they are not that expensive around $10 USD or so for a ship. He has a post on fb that is is doing a trial run on 1/1200 ships.

Queen Catherine05 Apr 2017 8:43 p.m. PST

Another vote for War Times Journal.
Some of my experiences with them, here:

Queen Catherine23 Apr 2017 5:40 p.m. PST

However, there is some movement with blacksmokebluewater at this larger scale, so it may be worth checking out!

freecloud01 May 2017 10:01 a.m. PST

Old Glory 1/600 Pre Dreads – saw them at Salute. Oh the temptation….

Part time gamer14 May 2017 3:23 p.m. PST

Another nod for War Times Journal.

I love the predred era and "Strongly" suggest you check WTJ. I 'grabbed' this from the "WTJ Store".

Historical: Pre-Dreadnoughts
Rapid Prototyped Plastic
(1/3000, 1/2400, 1/1800, 1/1500 Scales)
They list ships of 11 different Nations.
*Yellow Admiral pointed out, they do have some in 1250 & even 1000 scale. Not just DD's & TB's but BB's as well.

Two final points;
They also produce Ger., Brit. & Italian ships in "RPP" for WW I.
And it seems they are 'constantly' expanding the line. Even if only "window shopping" there really worth taking a look at.

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