| Splod89 | 09 Jul 2012 6:18 p.m. PST |
G'day guys, Working on my modern micro armour collection and am looking to expand my opposition for my ADF from the Kamarians to the Indonesian threat to the north. Does anyone have any idea on Indonesian TO&E? I've got plenty of info on their equipment, just no idea on their organisation. |
| tbeard1999 | 09 Jul 2012 8:35 p.m. PST |
Very slender, but my notes indicate 3 or 4 companies per infantry battalion. 3 stands per company. Armored cavalry battaliions have 3-4 companies, each with 3 stands of AMX-13, Saladin or Scorpion 90mm. Mechanized infantry have AMC-VCI (to be replaced by Pindad APS-3 6x6 APC). |
| bishnak | 10 Jul 2012 5:52 p.m. PST |
Indonesian TO&E might just get a bit more interesting soon. There have been reports in the defence industry press in recent months that Indonesia may be buying surplus Netherlands Leopard IIs (200+ of them). Should make for some interesting fictional clashes with neighbours: Oz – M1A1 (only 59 of them!)
Malaysia – T90
Singapore – Leopard II Bish |
| Tgunner | 10 Jul 2012 8:48 p.m. PST |
Huh… so how would these mechanized monsters ever come to blows? ots of ocean for them to cover before they could ever see each other. Do any of these nations have any serious naval lift capability? |
| bishnak | 11 Jul 2012 2:02 a.m. PST |
Singapore and Malaysia share a peninsula. Indonesia and Malaysia share common land borders in Borneo. Australia does have a good deal of Ocean around it, but soon will have 2x decent sized ships in the new LHDs: link But if it's for fictional conflicts, who cares how everyone gets where they need to be to trade blows? ;) bish |
| thatguy96 | 11 Jul 2012 5:19 a.m. PST |
Do any of these nations have any serious naval lift capability? Singapore has 4 6,000-ton LSTs and Indonesia has 3 11,000-ton LPDs (another one is also being built) and a hospital/multi-role ship of similar design and weight. |
| collins355 | 11 Jul 2012 1:04 p.m. PST |
Singapore regularly exercises moving armour by sea, and has a doctrine that stresses taking the fight to the enemy (something about living on a tiny island). Malaysia and Indonesia have territorial disputes, including over Sabah. Australia has aspirations of using its new landing ships to form a USMC-style amphibious expeditionary force. |
| bluewillow | 11 Jul 2012 7:40 p.m. PST |
Indonesian TO&E might just get a bit more interesting soon. There have been reports in the defence industry press in recent months that Indonesia may be buying surplus Netherlands Leopard IIs (200+ of them).: they actually bought 100 2 A6 German leopards, reported in the press here in Australia….
link Splod, In the eighties and nineties the Inf battalion, arm btn and arty was all along UK organisation lines. defence talk has a few discussions you can wade through! link |
| bishnak | 11 Jul 2012 11:48 p.m. PST |
Interesting – they move quick. The Dutch deal was only reported a couple of months ago… |
| Splod89 | 12 Jul 2012 9:06 p.m. PST |
While the discussion of Indonesia's new purchases and potential opponents is interesting, it doesn't help me much at all…
I've got so much detail on modern Australian forces, with the wealth of data available on organisation plus my own experience as a serviceman. I've got nothing of the sort of Indonesia though. Are AT weapons distributed at a company level, or a battalion level? What about other infantry support? Are infantry companies integrated into the armoured regiments ala Soviet doctrine or are they segregated? |
