"Polish Legion Plume 1796-99?" Topic
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DukeWacoan   | 06 Jul 2012 9:32 a.m. PST |
Being dense here trying to figure out plume color for Polish Legion 1796+. The Northstar painting guide says that Fusilier plumes = blue/red/white for 1st Bn
Grenadier plumes = red
Chasseur plumes = green But then it says there are 10 companies, 1x grenadier, then remainder "Chasseurs". So where are the Fusiliers? |
| DukeWacoan | 23 Jul 2012 1:10 p.m. PST |
Anyone care to take a stab at this? |
Seroga  | 23 Jul 2012 6:29 p.m. PST |
From La Cronaca Rovatti …. but I am not seeing plumes until adoption of the tsapska in about 1800 (i.e. none on the infantry conderatka previously worn):
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| von Winterfeldt | 23 Jul 2012 11:31 p.m. PST |
Serogas information is excellent as usual, I may add les colours des plumes de l'infanterie suivant l'ordre du général Kniaziewicz en date du 17 nivôse an VIII (7 janvier 1800)
p. 64,
L'Armée de Napoléon – Uniformes du 1er Empire 1792 – 1815
plates by Domange, Text by Alfred Umhey the full set of plumes is illustrated there. In case of interest I could do a photo of the Hoffmann plate. Another contemporary plate by Nicolas Hoffmann shows a legionary of the danube – grenadier – with a horsehair plume it would by also a good idea to check Guy Dempseys marvellous Napoleons Mercenaries. |
| von Winterfeldt | 24 Jul 2012 3:57 a.m. PST |
Here the photo from a Hoffmann print – alas not the best quality
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| Seroga | 24 Jul 2012 7:49 a.m. PST |
@von Winterfeldt Superb! (as always!)
I did not know that L'Armée de Napoléon – Uniformes du 1er Empire had text by Mr. Umhey. I will need to get it, I think. Thank you! Guy Dempsey is quite good on the various later Légions. But I think the question is about the initial Légions – ordered in 1796, formed 1797, 1 surrendered at Mantua, the other with substantial combat losses, re-organized in 1800. Overview ….
link Possibly of interest ….
Histoire des légions polonaises en Italie, sous le commandement du général Dombrowski
Léonard Chodźko
Paris : J. Barbezat, 1829.
link
link I suppose we could ask our colleague to confirm exactly which unit(s) and year(s) he is building. |
| von Winterfeldt | 24 Jul 2012 9:19 a.m. PST |
@Seroga
Most of the text of is from the plates of Dommange, A. Umhey added some text – the book is ok – despite Dommange is very inexact about his sources and composes from different sources some new ones – still very nice artistical skill. |
| DukeWacoan | 25 Jul 2012 10:46 a.m. PST |
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