"Perry Plastic British AWI...Ever?" Topic

Anyone heard any news (or even gossip) about these yet? They seem to have been sitting in the works for a very very long time? Seems like several other lines have passed them up going into production!

In the plastics workshop part of the website they say the Austrian plastics are next then: "The American Civil War Confederate Infantry will be next in line followed by the American War of Independence British Infantry."

They will come out only when you have entirely given up on them. Trust me--this is how this works ;)

When it comes to Perry, its done when its done!

I only hope that there are enough separate short bearskin heads so I can do the Welch Fusiliers in Boston. Otherwise, I have quite enough British units, and don't need any more. I am not repainting my entire army just because there are new SHINY plastic figures available.

If you ever get bored of waiting, you could go this way:

theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=272599

fifedrumminis.blogspot.com.es/2012/06/new-1776-deal-starts-now.html?spref=fb

You can't go wrong with Fife & Drum miniatures…

"You can't go wrong with Fife & Drum miniatures…"

Unless F&D are 40 figs for £20.00 GBP then I don't understand how this relates to a topic about plastic figure availability?!

Anyhoo…

"The American Civil War Confederate Infantry will be next in line followed by the American War of Independence British Infantry."

So sometime next year based upon their usual release speed, Austrians this year, Confederates for Saulte as they will sell more, then AWI second half of next year.

Jaz
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They seem to have been sitting in the works for a very very long time? Seems like several other lines have passed them up going into production!

They were announced in Salute 2011 (April 2011), together with five other plastic sets. No release date estimates were given for any of these (Perrys just don't give those until they are very close to the actual release). The sets in question were:

- Napoleonic Russian infantry (released in April 2012)
- 15th century mounted men-at-arms (released in April 2012)
- Napoleonic Austrian infantry (next to be released)
- ACW Confederate infantry (second in line for release)
- AWI British infantry (third in line for release)
- Napoleonic Prussian reserve infantry (status unknown)

After that announcement, there have been only two more plastic sets announced (for WWII), and there is no indication that these will have priority over the sets announced earlier on.

Perry twins have a habit of announcing their sets early (up to 18 months before release), which can be joy for some but torture for the more impatient souls.

Good, Grief, so true about the torture…I want the WWII plastic, then the Austrians, etc. : )

The costs involved in setting up a production mould for plastic figures are much higher than for metal ones. So one can hardly expect the same level of turnaround from master figure to production! Besides if I understand the situation correctly, Perry Miniatures is a sideline for the twins,the day job involves the Evil Empire.

Having seen photos of the greens, the Perry AWI Brits will be definitely worth the wait as will the Rebel figures that they also seem to be planning. From my personal point of view, I do not see plastic replacing the metal ones but they will provide a useful augmentation to what I currently have and what I will probably buy in the future.

Actually I think Axabrax has described the system perfectly.

I would like to see them come out with more AWI metal figures.

In general, most plastic figures are released when they are ready.

However, if the manufacturer has given a release date estimate, you can then easily predict the actual release date with the following method: take the date given by the manufacturer, then roll 3D6 and add that the many months to the release date estimate.

(Exception: if it miniatures in question are Victrix ancients, you should roll 4D6+3 instead of 3D6.)

Here's a challenge.

Why not make and paint all the figures you have already? Or sell them.

Then, when you are finished, the AWI figures will be ready and available.

The costs involved in setting up a production mould for plastic figures are much higher than for metal ones. So one can hardly expect the same level of turnaround from master figure to production! Besides if I understand the situation correctly, Perry Miniatures is a sideline for the twins,the day job involves the Evil Empire.

The WWPD podcast #39 had a great interview with John-Paul Brisigotti of Flames of War/Battle Front Miniatures in New Zealand. He had a good bit of discussion on the three main approaches plastics production.

He basically stated that Rendra, the guys that do to tooling for the plastics models that the Perrys and most others use , require about $50 USDK US and nine months time to get you back the molds for a sprue.

So yes when using the "3 up" and tooling approach, it's costly turnaround is slow, and this things have to be planned out well in advance, certainly long before we get any indication on which way the wind is blowing.
John-Paul Brisigotti also discussed the CAD to Chinese production approach Wargames Factory and PSC use, as well as a liquefied zinc mold creating process.