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Personal logo Waco Joe Supporting Member of TMP26 Jun 2012 12:41 p.m. PST

Turkey supposedly moving things up to the Syrian border:
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MarescialloDiCampo Inactive Member26 Jun 2012 1:19 p.m. PST

Nice scenario with Turkey and Syria border clashes

Personal logo M1Fanboy Supporting Member of TMP26 Jun 2012 1:30 p.m. PST

Oh dear….

Mako11 Supporting Member of TMP26 Jun 2012 1:44 p.m. PST

I suspect it is more for show than for a real battle, but miscalculations by both sides are possible, and may result in minor skirmishes.

Supposedly too, the Syrians have stopped helping to keep the Kurds under wraps on their side of the border, which isn't making the Turks too happy.

MarescialloDiCampo Inactive Member26 Jun 2012 1:50 p.m. PST

The Turks bombed PKK Kurdish camps in northern Iraq on the same day that their aircraft was shot down

dwight shrute26 Jun 2012 1:56 p.m. PST

Maybe if they'd mobilised their Leopard 2's they would have shown real intent ??

MarescialloDiCampo Inactive Member26 Jun 2012 2:06 p.m. PST

Partial Syrian OOB from wiki:
10,885 Armoured Fighting Vehicles:4,950 Main battle tanks (including 1,150 in storage)
1,125 Amphibious Armoured Scout Cars
2,950 Infantry fighting vehicles
1,860 Armoured personnel carriers

4,815+ Towed Artillery Pieces:1,010+ Mortars
2,130+ Gun/Howitzers (400 in storage)
1,675+ Anti-aircraft guns (300+ in storage)

1,136 Self Propelled Artillery Pieces:485 Self-propelled howitzers
650 Self-propelled anti-aircraft guns (240 in storage)

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Turkish OOB:
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Scott Kursk26 Jun 2012 4:57 p.m. PST

Turkey's main weapon: Article 5 of the NATO treaty.

Lion in the Stars Supporting Member of TMP26 Jun 2012 6:43 p.m. PST

The key section of the treaty was Article V. This committed each member state to consider an armed attack against one state to be an armed attack against all states.

Yeah, being able to call Uncle Sam for help has been Europe's preferred solution to territory disputes for the last 100 years.

Mako11 Supporting Member of TMP26 Jun 2012 6:44 p.m. PST

I heard on the news today that they are moving their units up to the border, and have declared that any Syrian countermove of units towards the border, even though still in Syrian territory, will be viewed as a "provocative action".

Seems to me the Turks are the provocateurs in this scenario, and in the low-flying pass over Syrian territory, as well, which resulted in the Phantom being shot down.

I'm no Syrian apologist, and think Bashar should be deposed with a surgical drone strike, but it appears Turkey is the one escalating tensions in the region to me.

Supposedly, their leader has designs on deposing Bashar, either with or without NATO's assistance, and then gaining control over Lebanon, and sway over Jordan as well.

Apparently, he is trying to create a Sunni empire in the region, if the reports are accurate.

Personal logo Klebert L Hall Supporting Member of TMP27 Jun 2012 4:28 a.m. PST

Ooh… "At least" 15 AFVs!
Wow, what a buildup.

You guys must be desperate to see this as news.
-Kle.

Legion 429 Jun 2012 7:33 a.m. PST

A Turk – Syrian dust up might be interesting for gaming purposes … Don't think it will happen in reality. Unless Turkey wants to take a shot at another Ottoman Turk Empire … But with all the continuing problems in that region … with the Kurds in the middle, who knows …

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