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Mithmee Supporting Member of TMP23 Jun 2012 10:58 a.m. PST

Oh yes Judge Dredd is coming back to the big screen and this one looks far better than first and I think Dredd keeps his helmet on the whole time.

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Space Wizard Supporting Member of TMP23 Jun 2012 11:24 a.m. PST

Where is the humour though? It looks like it's playing it straight and not showing its satirical roots at all.
At least the Stallone version was kind of goofy in places (intentionally or otherwise).

jpattern2 Supporting Member of TMP23 Jun 2012 12:11 p.m. PST

What V said. Stallone's was too goofy, but this one looks too grim. I still plan to see it, though.

Personal logo Angel Barracks Sponsoring Member of TMP23 Jun 2012 12:24 p.m. PST

Does not look anything like MegaCity One to me.

:(

David Manley23 Jun 2012 1:17 p.m. PST

I'm beginning to think the Stallone might be better, at least truer to the original….

Mako11 Supporting Member of TMP23 Jun 2012 1:20 p.m. PST

Given the last one, not sure this one will be worth watching.

Perhaps on a really boring, weekend afternoon, with nothing better to do, on the TV at home.

john lacour Supporting Member of TMP23 Jun 2012 1:36 p.m. PST

thats what i think, angel. that looks nothing like the big meg. the uniform is just plain goofy(yes, i know the early dredd had a uniform like that, but he should have the pads and the the eagle pad on the left.) i'm a long time dredd fan, and this looks like crap…

john lacour Supporting Member of TMP23 Jun 2012 1:40 p.m. PST

and the lawgiver holster has always been in the boot, not on the hip. i guess if you're not gonna bother to make the uniform correct, no need to have the boots correct.

Personal logo Angel Barracks Sponsoring Member of TMP23 Jun 2012 2:06 p.m. PST

Or the lawmasters…
Or the crazy mega-city fashions..


Chopper would not surf those skies and NO Squaxx dek Thargo.

Mick A23 Jun 2012 2:45 p.m. PST

Looks lime its based more on the US comic version that failed rather than the proper Dredd…

Mick

Alex Kulic Supporting Member of TMP23 Jun 2012 4:09 p.m. PST

I think it looks like an episode of Dr Who and Dredd doesn't have the chin.

IMO a good Judge Dredd film would be better done as animation.

Personal logo Altius Supporting Member of TMP23 Jun 2012 5:57 p.m. PST

Meh…

Looks like another run-of-the-mill pop-fascist adolescent power fantasy to me. At any rate, I'll pass.

charles popp24 Jun 2012 7:44 p.m. PST

I am going to see it. Cast looks decent. May not be the truest to the comics but who knows. I think it looks good.
I also liked the Stalone one. It wasn't the best but it was good for what it was a B grade Comic book movie.

Dunadan25 Jun 2012 12:08 p.m. PST

Looks like it'll be a fun sciffy flick! :)

Mithmee Supporting Member of TMP25 Jun 2012 12:57 p.m. PST

The Stalone movie was crap he should have never taken the Helmet off.

Judge Doug25 Jun 2012 4:38 p.m. PST

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"Karl is a great Dredd and Olivia gets Anderson completely. This is Dredd as it should be done – true to character, visceral, unrelentingly violent (but not off-puttingly so)." – John Wagner, creator of Judge Dredd

tnjrp25 Jun 2012 10:42 p.m. PST

It's difficult to tell the tone of the movie from the standard action movie trailer fare.

It could have a more toned-down satirical approach than a downright goofy one, but of course they also could've dropped the ball completely (as does the comic itself on more than one occasion) and indeed made it into a nihilo-fascist Bleeped text of the sort the comic is intented to lampoon.

But the actors do look decent for their roles and at least the movie makers didn't start at the top and throw in Judge Death as the baddie like IIRC they originally meant to.

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PS. It looks like the combination of the words "wet" and "dream" is a Bleeped text. Isn't that verging on the ridiculous already?

Mithmee Supporting Member of TMP25 Jun 2012 11:11 p.m. PST

Just need to do Judge Dredd against Judge Death.

Personal logo Angel Barracks Sponsoring Member of TMP26 Jun 2012 7:16 a.m. PST

"Karl is a great Dredd and Olivia gets Anderson completely. This is Dredd as it should be done – true to character, visceral, unrelentingly violent (but not off-puttingly so). – John Wagner, creator of Judge Dredd"


Hmmm any money involved in that by any chance?
Did anyone expect him to slag off his own creation and miss out on royalties/rights/fame/other..

Ghostrunner26 Jun 2012 8:27 a.m. PST

Did anyone expect him to slag off his own creation and miss out on royalties/rights/fame/other..

Strangely, a few noted cases have happened.

Clancy pitched a fit over Patriot Games until the studio finally got him to shut up.

I know I've read of a few others, but for the life of me I can't remember them off the top of my head.

As for Dredd… could be decent rental, which is about the highest praise I'm willing to offer. Fair or not, it can't help but look derivative with all the other movies of this type that have come out over the years (many clearly influenced by Judge Dredd).

chromedog26 Jun 2012 10:29 p.m. PST

Philip K Dick hated the idea of anyone turning "Do androids" into a movie.

Until after Ridley Scott took him to the set, showed him sketches, models and concept art. Then he became a fan – and sadly, died before it was finished.

Personal logo Angel Barracks Sponsoring Member of TMP27 Jun 2012 1:27 a.m. PST

Then he became a fan – and sadly, died before it was finished.

I did not know that.

:(

tberry7403 Supporting Member of TMP27 Jun 2012 4:10 a.m. PST

I know I've read of a few others, but for the life of me I can't remember them off the top of my head.

Heinlein's widow made them take his name off "Starship Troopers".

Judge Doug08 Aug 2012 8:55 a.m. PST

Angel, if you read the article, Wagner had a lot of complaints, but they addressed/fixed most of them.

Additionally, there's another article that talks about Wagner's involvement in the script:
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Grandviewroad08 Aug 2012 11:22 a.m. PST

looks good to me – I frankly can't see what anyone could complain about except that the visuals are a bit more "realistic" and that his helmet is a bit too large. Frankly, Dredd had no sense of humor, so any humor in the movie will have to be ironic / satirical which is hard to show in a trailer. Now Dirty Harry – he was funny.

My own personal pet peeve is they have once again insisted on portraying women in ludicrous roles that are simply unbelievable, even in Hollywood. But that's the new normal, and apparently guys get off on it.

Covert Walrus Supporting Member of TMP10 Aug 2012 3:21 p.m. PST

"Frankly, Dredd had no sense of humor, so any humor in the movie will have to be ironic / satirical which is hard to show in a trailer."

Undeed, Grandview; The best example of Dredd approaching funny form hig orbit was in "The Game Show Show" case -

Cheif Judge McGruder:"All other judges are working the post-war reconstruction – I want this solved fast and that means YOU! Recover those game show hosts!"

Dredd:" Dead or alive?"

*As Dredd leaves* MacG:" Funny . . . not like Dredd to crack a joke . . . "

Assistant:"Are you sure he's *Joking* Ma'am?"

Grandviewroad10 Aug 2012 3:28 p.m. PST

nice example. The comic has humor, but the joke is that Dredd does not.

I think it's pretty clear that he intends to engage in "Game show host retrieval" with a dead or alive approach.

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