Verplank1782  | 16 Jun 2012 1:12 p.m. PST |
How do Adler 6mm figures compare with Baccus in terms of size and detail? I have some of the Baccus Russian grenadiers in Kiwers and am very pleased with them, but I am new to the 6mm world and am still exploring. |
HistoryPhD  | 16 Jun 2012 1:21 p.m. PST |
I vastly prefer Adler. The detail is outstanding. I do have a few Baccus and though there may be a slight size difference, I find it unnoticeable on the table. I'd say that you'll be able to intermix both companies on your table, though I'd not recommend mixing them on a single stand. Welcome to 6mm, btw. I sold off all my 15mm and couldn't be more pleased. I tried 10mm, but found the "mass effect" of 6mm to be far more visually impressive. And how anyone finds a that a dozen or so 28mm's look like a battalion is beyond me. 6mm also liberates you from all the obsessive "button's have to be perfect" painting. |
| rct75001 | 16 Jun 2012 3:36 p.m. PST |
I also love the Adler – I have only bought a few Baccus as comparison. I would suggest a small infantry and cavalry order to both companies. That way you will be able to experience the look, ease of painting and basing experience of both coys. |
Khusrau  | 16 Jun 2012 10:26 p.m. PST |
I like the Adler figure,s but prefer Baccus. One thing to note is that Baccus are gradually redoing all their Napoleonic scuplts, so the newer lines are much better such as the Russians and the British. Baccus also sculpt as strips whereas the Adlers are individuals. Not bad for cavalry, but a pain for infantry, and you can never quite seem to get as many on a base as the Baccus ones. I have seen very nice armies done with Adler mounted and Baccus infantry. |
ancientsgamer  | 16 Jun 2012 11:55 p.m. PST |
You can get Baccus through Scale Creep Miniatures here in the U.S. (although he is in the process of getting a physical store set up so orders might be a bit delayed) My 2 cents is a love both lines. I think Adler may have more choices? Adler have enlarged heads/Shakos which I happen to like but I think Baccus may be better proportioned. The new sculpts are very, very good. |
| Cerdic | 17 Jun 2012 2:14 a.m. PST |
I prefer Baccus for building large units and armies. They paint up really fast and, as already mentioned, the infantry strips base up well. Adler are very detailed figures and slightly bigger than Baccus. OK to mix in an army but maybe not in the same unit. There is also the famous 'big head' issue with Adler. A lot of people don't like the way the heads are a bit out of proportion with the rest of the figure. Others aren't worried though. |
GildasFacit  | 17 Jun 2012 4:35 a.m. PST |
For me the only negative for Adler is the single based infantry. Superb sculpts but slower to paint and base than Baccus and the difference in the final 'look' isn't that great so I mostly go with Baccus. |
Nick The Lemming  | 17 Jun 2012 5:55 a.m. PST |
I'm with Gildas. Both great ranges, Baccus are easier / quicker to base up. |
Verplank1782  | 17 Jun 2012 8:50 a.m. PST |
Thanks for your notes, guys. This has been tremendously helpful. The next step will be to place orders from both companies. My current goal is to build Russian and French units from the September 1812 orders of battle for Borodino, starting with Tuchkov's Third Corps on the Russian left, and in opposition, Poniatowski's Fifth Corps Polish troops. I'm curious to see what the Russian corps commanders can do if given access to the army's artillery reserve on the night of September 6-7. |
| flipper | 17 Jun 2012 10:14 a.m. PST |
Hi 'I'm curious to see what the Russian corps commanders can do if given access to the army's artillery reserve on the night of September 6-7.' Blow the Polish away
I suspect! |
| grambo | 18 Jun 2012 3:28 a.m. PST |
Both ranges are beautiful little castings, but I also prefer Baccus simply for proportion and speed of painting and basing. Adlers do have very well defined faces for example, but I do find those heads a little too large for my taste, others love them. Lee. |
| WarDepotDavid | 18 Jun 2012 5:42 a.m. PST |
Adler are awesome Baccus are skinnier and shorter with less detail. link see the bottom pic for comparison of British troops |
LeonAdler  | 18 Jun 2012 1:14 p.m. PST |
Not sure if you realise you can just base the marching strips one behind the other, each rank offset. There is no need to 'de strip' the figures. The ability with the strips we do to base singly is there as an ADDITIONAL option for the customer. And also note that most of the figures done by Stone Mountain in the US were not the most up to date castings. L |