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EricThe Shed Supporting Member of TMP15 Jun 2012 6:52 a.m. PST

Hi Folks

Managed to get the basic construction finished and first coat of paint onto my 28mm Tramp Steamer.

More photos can be seen at my blog

shedwars.blogspot.co.uk


The boat itself opens up to show all the decks and cabins etc…the plan is to use if for Pulp, WW2 and Modern games…


Enjoy

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Personal logo richarDISNEY of the RDGC Supporting Member of TMP15 Jun 2012 7:10 a.m. PST

Looking great!

beer

Anton Ryzbak Inactive Member15 Jun 2012 7:14 a.m. PST

That is lovely! Exactly how HUGE is that thing? It looks immense!

BTW where did you get the ventilators?

Pan Marek Supporting Member of TMP15 Jun 2012 7:17 a.m. PST

Link for Part 1?

EricThe Shed Supporting Member of TMP15 Jun 2012 8:03 a.m. PST

Hi Folks

Anton: The boat is five foot long and 1foot wide.

The ventilators are plastic air vents from B&Q -f you mean the air pipes (the curvy things) they are plastic pipe joiners.

Link to Part 1

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Thank you

Eric

clifblkskull15 Jun 2012 8:58 a.m. PST

Excellent Eric.
Clif

Hevy Phyzx Inactive Member15 Jun 2012 10:03 a.m. PST

That is pretty amazing. I love that you are promoting it for use in Pulp gaming. I could see and "Indiana Jones"-esque, or "Adventures of Tin-Tin" game taking place on it easily!

Great Job so far! Even has the Chain Lockers for the Anchors!!!

Andy Welkley
"Your Phrendlee Hevy Phyzx T-chrr"
and former merchant mariner!

spectre16 Jun 2012 1:19 p.m. PST

That's why the lady is a tramp (steamer).

Chouan18 Jun 2012 5:33 a.m. PST

If I could make the following suggestions, before it's too late.
The ventilators should be ventilating a space, they're not there for effect. These seem to just be deck fittings.
There should be more hatches, and the hatches should be bigger.
Too much sheer forward, and not enough aft. The ship is losing valuable cargo space by having too fine lines forward, and such a blunt stern would cause difficulties in steering.
The posts for the rails are far too big!
Here's an example of a model, of a 1930-40's design, to show the hull form.

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Here is a real one, again, look at the hull form.
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and another view
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Hope that they help

Lion in the Stars Supporting Member of TMP18 Jun 2012 6:29 a.m. PST

Ah, yeah, I see what Chouan is saying: it looks like you scaled up a rowboat, when a (real) cargo ship is a box with a bow welded on the front and engines&stern attached to the back of the big box.

Those big ventilators should probably be a little closer to the centerline, to feed fresh air into the engineroom. There's an open space directly under them where they are now.

(Sorry, but when you work around ships, certain details jump out at you!)

EricThe Shed Supporting Member of TMP18 Jun 2012 3:38 p.m. PST

Hi Chouan and Lion in the Stars

Thanks for the comments, some of these I can act on others maybe a little bit more difficult.

Firstly I should say that this is a representation of a freighter and is not based on any actual designs. With little or no nautical history (apart from a great uncle who lost his life at Jutland) I am quite happy with progress so far.

The ventilators should be centred and above the engine deck – but in my miond they look better where they are (yes I know it is not accurate).

Not all the hatches or in place yet.

Ref the balance of the ship – agree the front is too long I am going to chop this dowm (maybe)

Posts for railings – this is being built on a budget – these were the dowlings I had to hand at the time.

Blunt stern – well it was easier to cut the wood this way.

Thanks for evetrybody's comments and hopefully the ship will be launched later in the year….off to finish some 10mm Saxons..

Eric

Chouan19 Jun 2012 1:57 a.m. PST

It isn't so much where the ventilators are, but what they are for. Keep them where they are if you think that they look better there, but at least extend the trunking through to the deck below to at least create an impression that they are doing something!

shamoo Inactive Member02 Jul 2013 8:05 a.m. PST

hey guys i recently so saw pics i forget what forum, it made by Richard houston n well look super, does any one know if he is still in buisness? every time i check on the armchaire general cant get in touch as i want to buy one. i am hooked on pulp now

Colonel O Truth17 Aug 2013 3:27 p.m. PST

Eric – Awesome! Love it!

Historical accuracy is overrated and unnecessary in my opinion. Although I should add that all of my steam powered walkers and tanks and dinosaur-drawn field guns are historically correct to the tiniest detail, with years of research…

Joes Shop Supporting Member of TMP18 Aug 2013 9:11 a.m. PST

Excellent Progress-keep us informed.

Regards,

J. P. Kelly

EricThe Shed Supporting Member of TMP18 Aug 2013 11:11 a.m. PST

Hi guys…sorry to disappoint but this like so many objects is in a state off hibernation…I will return to it one day

Eric

mickthemagpie Supporting Member of TMP18 Aug 2013 3:43 p.m. PST

Shame but at least your wheat fields are done! And that's a nice 10mm ancients set up you have on your Blog.

Personal logo Murphy Sponsoring Member of TMP18 Aug 2013 7:22 p.m. PST

not bad…

Chouan27 Aug 2013 5:28 a.m. PST

"Historical accuracy is overrated and unnecessary in my opinion. Although I should add that all of my steam powered walkers and tanks and dinosaur-drawn field guns are historically correct to the tiniest detail, with years of research…"

Nothing to do with historical accuracy, really.If one is going to go to all that effort to build a cargo ship, then it is a good idea to build something that looks like a cargo ship. If a couple of ex-seafarers point out things that could be done to improve the basic shape, and explain why, then I would be inclined to think that it's helpful advice.

Chouan27 Aug 2013 5:30 a.m. PST

"Historical accuracy is overrated and unnecessary in my opinion. Although I should add that all of my steam powered walkers and tanks and dinosaur-drawn field guns are historically correct to the tiniest detail, with years of research…"

Nothing to do with historical accuracy, really, but if one is going to build a cargo ship, then it is a good idea to build something that looks like a cargo ship.

jurgenation Supporting Member of TMP27 Aug 2013 8:56 p.m. PST

the ship is beautiful,can't wait to see it finished

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