"Most Significant Battle of Megiddo?" Topic

Writing in Miniature Wargames, Andrew Coleby asserts that the lesser-known WWI battle is more important due to its long-term "consequences and ramifications."

In your opinion, which battle was more significant – the Battle of Megiddo in 1469 BC, or the Battle of Megiddo in 1918?

WW1 by far.

The 1469BC battle is noteworthy as it is one, if not the earliest battle that we know about. It marked an important milestone in the Egyptian pacification of the lands between Egypt and Turkey (called the Levant). While important the actual battle was only the beginning of the campaign which went on for a while . Egypt could not maintain permanent control and lost the area later on later on.

The 1918 battle effectively ended Ottoman domination of the Levant which had gone back to at least the 13th century. The Turks retreated from Palestine/Syria and never came back. The later domination of the area by France and Britain led eventually to many of the mid eastern problems we have today caused by the creation of states using artificial or non natural boundaries such as Jordan, Iraq, Lebanon Syria and most importantly Palestine. In many ways we are still living with the effects of 1918.

Having said that the most important battle may be yet to come. Another name for Megiddo is Armageddon which is the supposed site of the battle to be fought at "the end of days" between the forces of light and darkness. If that one occurs its effects will dwarf the other two.

Depends on your viewpoint, I suppose. For the Egyptians, 1st Megiddo brought the rebels in check and contributed in keeping Egypt in control of the entire region for at least the next 2 centuries. It also gave us history's first body count. 2nd Megiddo* helped the UK gain control of the region which they would hold for about the next 3-4 decades, eventually providing a foothold for the creation of the state of Israel, and that, of course, has ramifications down to the present day. Nevertheless, both of these battles were parts of larger campaigns and their significance is primarily as contributing factors to the outcomes of those campaigns rather than any direct effect.

*Actually, I think it was the 3rd, but whatever.

First. That one secured an empire for a couple of centuries.

How's the British Empire doing these days?

The question is "important long term consequences and ramifications" The British and Egyptian Empires are long gone and how long someone ruled the area is moot. To me what is happening today is a lot more important and relevant then events that happened 3500 years ago.

The current middle east problems we are going through today such as the instability of Iraq, the conflict between Israelis and Palestinians, Lebanon, the division of Sunni and Shiite Muslims by artificial boundaries…, are all a direct consequence of 1918 not 1469BC. We have no idea where those problems will lead or what will happen which is what I see as "ramifications"

My vote is on the future battle…..

This has inspired me with a new poll idea…

Yes, Third Megiddo, assuming Armageddon means 'hill (har) of Megiddo'

In original THE OMEN 'The lost city of Megiddo' is actually the Temple Archaeological Gardens below the Al-Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem. The dreadful 3rd film features one of my favourite places – Roche Rock.

1918.

miniMo,
Actually the B.E. is doing ok! It's all covert now.