optional field | 09 Jun 2012 8:17 a.m. PST |
Is 25mm a different scale than 28mm? What about 30mm? 32mm? 35mm? How many different scales are there in between 25 and 54? |
Mako11 | 09 Jun 2012 8:22 a.m. PST |
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14Bore | 09 Jun 2012 8:25 a.m. PST |
This is an ongoing controversy; different makers make the same scale differently. 15mm's come everywhere from 15 – 18 or 19, and is it to top of head, hat? Mix and match as you see fit. I've posted before men don't come in the same size, don't worry if your figures all are. |
myxemail | 09 Jun 2012 8:34 a.m. PST |
XXmm is not a scale, it's a relative size of the figures. 1/72, 1/64, 1/285, etc are scales. When I see 25mm or 28mm I know roughly how big the figures are, and there are variations between the different brands. That would happen as one company might measures the figure from the base to the eyes, another to the top of the head, etc. So with XXmm figures you will have wide variation, even when comparing different figures. I find with claims of actual scale figures, there are still variations in size, but there is also more consistency from one brand to another. So to respond to the original question, is 25mm a different scale than 28mm? Probably. The figures are certainly sized differently. Mike |
Scorpio | 09 Jun 2012 9:20 a.m. PST |
28mm, for me, belongs with my 30mm-32mm sized figs. Those line up relatively close to the eye. 25mm might occasionally line up to the 28s, but it definitely stands out among the 30s and 32s and the like. It might be scale creep, but there's a lot more 30-32s coming out that I want, and I am not seeing a lot of development of the 25s. (Not that 15mm hasn't gotten most of my gaming money in the past six months, but hey.) |
John D Salt | 09 Jun 2012 9:23 a.m. PST |
28mm is a new-fangled nonsense for manufacturers too slapdash to make 25mms the right height and too ignorant of Tradition to resurrect the old and distinguished 30mms. Off my lawn with you, now. John. |
T Meier | 09 Jun 2012 9:52 a.m. PST |
'Xmm' is not a scale in the sense of a precise relation between objects. This is evident by asking yourself the simple question, "How long is one meter (or yard) in Xmm scale?" Xmm figures are a scale only in the sense of bearing a relation in size or scope, e.g. "that problem is of an entirely different scale". A 25mm and a 28mm figure could easily be of the same scale if they represented people of different heights. |
Mapleleaf | 09 Jun 2012 10:04 a.m. PST |
I can accept the concept that people come in different sizes but weapons do not. Comparing 15-18s or 25-28s the biggest difference is often in the size of the weapon or other accessories |
Pizzagrenadier | 09 Jun 2012 3:16 p.m. PST |
Shhhh, don't summon GOTHIC LINE MINIATURES! |
ming31 | 09 Jun 2012 5:16 p.m. PST |
yes
28 is an off shoot of 25mm sized figures |
John the OFM | 09 Jun 2012 7:19 p.m. PST |
I have run many games with 25mm and 28mm figures running about together. The world does not end in a thunderclap. |
John the OFM | 09 Jun 2012 7:59 p.m. PST |
It's only different if you want it to be. |
myxemail | 09 Jun 2012 8:11 p.m. PST |
I agree, OFM. The world does not end, even in a thunderclap. However some smaller sized 25mm placed near larger 28mm sized figures really look odd on the same table. The difference in size happens more often in that manner than if the figures were all from the same "scale". MapleLeaf hits on probably the biggest issue with different sized figures; the weapons. A 25mm AWI figure with musket may indeed look OK side by side with a 28mm AWI figure with musket. But more times than not the two muskets between the figures are exaggerated in size differences, even though in human terms the smaller figure is OK next to the larger figure. I run WW II games with 15mm sized figures and don't get bent out of shape with the size differences between the older Quality Castings infantry vs the current FoW steroid offerings. Most of the time at normal gaming/arms length viewing the size difference is not so noticable. Especially with the smaller scales and sizes. As the nominal size of the figure increases, the differences become more notcable to my eye. However if different brands of figure makers claim a specific scale, say 1/72, I'm willing to bet that the muskets are a lot closer in size consistent to each other than between makers of 25mm AWI figures with muskets. I'm even willing to bet that makers of xMM figures take that route just to avoid any conflict with the rivet counters and the scale ruler wielders. I still stand by that Xmm is not a scale, however as OFM points out the world does not stop when figures are mixed and matched on the table. I'm sure most of us mix and match Xmm sized figures as well as scaled figures on the same table. Did I hear thunder? Mike |