"Sir John Neville, 3rd Baron Latimer, 1493-1543" Topic
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| Stuart MM | 30 May 2012 10:23 a.m. PST |
Hello Could anyone help me finding the heraldry of the above chap, I've found quite a lot of Neville's but i'm having difficulty with this one. He was the eldest son of Richard Neville, 2nd Baron Latimer (whose heraldry I also can't find) My interest in him is that he led a contingent of border horse for Henry VIII's 1513 campaign in France. If I get really stuck I was thinking of just using a simple Neville banner of a white saltire on red background or would that not have been done? also, one last question, what was the Neville livery? Any help would be much apprecited. |
| vexillia | 30 May 2012 10:54 a.m. PST |
The Freezywater database has this entry for Richard Neville Sir Richard Neville of Heversham
Possibly Lord Latimer.
Fought at Stoke Field (T).
Eldest son of Sir Henry Neville of Heversham (d 1469). Married Anne Stafford. Made a Knight of the Bath in 1478.
Arms: Gules a saltire Argent a pellet Sable for difference a label of 5 points Sable. --
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| Wardlaw | 30 May 2012 12:07 p.m. PST |
Will have a look at Siddons' new work on herladic badges of England and Wales (have just nfinished writing a review). If we know what his livery is, SIddons will have madea note of it in this work! |
| Wardlaw | 31 May 2012 4:17 a.m. PST |
Siddons only has – George (younger son of Ralph Nevill, 1st earl of Westmoreland, and nephew of Lord Latimer died 1577). The badges recorded are a griffin stantant or (gold griffin standing on three legs)a white heart, and a bull. His livery colours are red or red and white. Thomas Neville, possibly another younger son of Lord Latimer, also bore a golden griffin. His livery colours are murrey (red-brown) and light blue. I t would seem then that the griffin is a good bet, and a red livery would make sense. |
| Stuart MM | 07 Jun 2012 10:49 a.m. PST |
Thanks for your help it gave me a few pointers, I thought you might like to know that I finally found it; link Nevill, Lord Latimer. Gules a saltire argent with a ring sable for difference upon the saltire. |
| janner | 07 Jun 2012 11:06 p.m. PST |
Ah, like what Martin said – Lance and Longbow Society to the rescue again ;-) |
| Stuart MM | 08 Jun 2012 2:53 a.m. PST |
I wasn't sure at first as quite a lot of Tudor heraldry has a fair degree of quartering and this threw me somewhat being relatively simple in comparison. I've tried to read up on quartering but it appears that not all families did it….so I gave up, and had a beer instead ! |
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