"Starting up AWI How many?" Topic

Flags per regiment/battalion?
I plan on doing Warfare In The Age Of Reason at the 1/25 scale.15/18mm Blue Moon figs.Going to go all in at the start with me and my gaming group.
So if a command stand is 4 figs should there be 2 flags on the stand or should that just be for the Brits?

The British most of the time had their normal two flags. But there are exceptions like the Guards in Southern Campaign that may have never carried their flags during the campaign.

The Composite lights and Grens did not carry flags. Then there are the Loyalist for which there is very little documentation. Some of my Loyalist have flags and some don't. It depends on the evidence and your personal taste. Having said that my Guards have both their flags because I like the look.

I don't know if I want to even start with the Americans. We know what flags some of the regiments carried but for others the evidence is quite murky. They probably only carried one flag but there could be exceptions to that rule.

The standard reference for AWI flags is "Standards and Colors of the American Revolution" by Edward Richardson. I really recommend this book.

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Good summat=rym Rallynow.

I like to give Loyalist regiments that were "line" troops the full panpply of Colours. I always say that the Loyalists were "more British than the British", and would practically demand a full stand of colours.
"Line" troops would be regiments like DeLancey's, Skinners, Volunteers of Ireland, etc.

Hessians normally carried a standard for the regiment, and one for each company. However, they were normally all grouped together on the "command stand". In practical terms, you want two colors.
Serch the TMP American Revolution Board for fuller discussion of this.

If you can match a "genuine" Continental flag with a "genuine" regiment uniform, you are indeed lucky. I normally do one flag per regiment. Gostelowe flags are good.

German Jaegers did not carry colors and I don't believe German Grenadiers did, at least mine don't. I have had a little luck matching up dragoon flags with the exception of the British Legion Horse.

For the BL Horse I ended up copying the shape of another dragoon flag. and painted it black outlined in gold. If they carried a flag I couldn't find it. My British 17th Light Dragoons do not carry a flag.

The flag for the BL foot is another mystery. I ended up using the flag that was based on a portrait of B.T. himself. But that may have been the artist's flight of fancy. I think I bought it from Flags for Lads. By the way I reccomend this period for 25/28mm figs. The battles are small and don't require a ton of figures. Perry and Foundry are my figures of choice.

One nice thing about the AWI period and flags – you can give your troops practically any flag and no one can really say that you are right or wrong.

OFM I read that thread,very informative.
We are planing on doing most if not all of the project at one time. We are going to use a professional painter. So we have that going for us.

I was thinking of adding to the mix a bit of what-if in some Spanish forces ,that could intervene on the American Side.

The flag for the BL foot is another mystery.

Probably because they probably dodn't have any. I would not call them "line" troops.
Although, oddly enough, Butler's Rangers, the quintessential "non-line" Loyalist regiment, DID have colours!
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Stay away from Warflag, by the way. 'Tis a silly place.

Rall's Hessian Grenadiers carried the standard number of five colors. British Legion were offered colors, Bloody Ban turned the offer down.

Yeah, Rall is … odd.

If the BL Horse did not carry a flag then why does the Battle Honors (Perrys did not have them at the time) command pack for them include a flag bearer?

And I don't believe my Front Rank Butler's Rangers had a color bearer. Crazy!

If the BL Horse did not carry a flag then why does the Battle Honors (Perrys did not have them at the time) command pack for them include a flag bearer?

Well, because maybe they are wrong?

I would give the BL dragoons a guidon, particularly if tou have the figure for it and don't feel like cutting the staff away and putting a sword in its place.
I have that pack, but will paint them up as Lee's Legion, for whom I believe there IS a flag!

@ Rallynow: May be Battle Honors never read Bloody Ban's Diary & History of the campaign where he writes General Cornwallis offered the British Legion colors, purchased for from the General's own funds for the British Legion's performance in combat and he turned the honor down.
Those black colors would have looked great!
, just not correct.

Maybe they are wrong. Maybe they are giving you the option of having a flag if you want it. But I agree they probably did not have a flag. Perrys BL Horse does not have a color bearer. I will be converting to them anyway with no flag. Now we need Perrys to do the BL Foot.

@Rallynow: I use Perry's AW145 & 146 Lee's Legion Infantry
to complete my British Legion infantry companies.

Happy to read the posts about Eureka's 71st. miniatures,
the last British unit I need for Cowpens OB.

At the time I was doing them those were not avaliable so I used Queen's Rangers. I have a Lee's Legion Infantry unit and I plan to use them for by new BL foot.

Wow ,just got my Copies of the American War of Independence by Greg Novak. Has everything you need to play.Not just battle breakdowns but who was serving wear in each year.
About the only thing lacking is the allocation of artillery and Naval vessels being present. At Boston these where vital.