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alan L13 May 2012 3:30 p.m. PST

What equipment should artillery crew have when working a breech-loader? This is for the 1890s.

Was there wany requirement for a crew man with a rammer/sponge for cleaning out the barrel? If not, then the only figures appropriate would appear to be carrying a shell, pulling a lanyard and perhaps manhandling the gun itself.

I know Old Glory have a pack of 2nd Boer War artillery crew but I really don't need 20 figures.

I was thinking of the figures from Bicorne. Can anyone say if they are wearing puttees suitable for the 2nd Boer War and NW Frontier? Are there any other suitable figures I have missed?

bsrlee14 May 2012 3:24 a.m. PST

Aimer, breach worker, shell handler, charge handler, primer inserter/gun commander is a roughly full crew for QF guns with recoil mechanisms. Non-QF guns needed bigger crews to help push the gun back into battery & they got tired quickly. I think someone in there had a short wet swab for clearing/cleaning the chamber.

12lb & 15lb BL guns used separate shell and bagged charges, the breach was closed with an interrupted screw/deBange system. Depending on the model it was originally a 2 part action, later improvements made it a combined unlock & open from one lever.

No brass case until the 13/18lbers IIRC.

number429 Oct 2012 6:21 p.m. PST

You still need to swab the breech when using bagged charges, and even on all pieces the shell needs to be rammed home so that the soft copper driving band engages with the rifling. Same number of crew, they just don't stand in front of it!

Askari Minis04 Nov 2012 6:18 a.m. PST

I was looking at pictures of French naval crews manning large guns. There are also wheel mechanisms that need turning, so potentially someone doing that as well.

Lion in the Stars04 Nov 2012 7:50 p.m. PST

One moment… *rummage*

from the 'British Army on Campaign (4) 1882-1902' Osprey, p.16:

Each subsection [gun and limber, plus ammunition wagon and limber] consisted of a Sergeant in command, an NCO in charge of the ammunition wagon, three gun-crew, two ammunition numbers, plus six drivers, RHA having an extra three as horse-holders.

Photos of the guns in drill only show 4 crew around a 15pdr breech-loader.

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