Cacique Caribe | 03 Apr 2012 6:11 a.m. PST |
FROM REBEL MINIS:
link FROM KHURASAN MINIATURES:
TMP link And I'm sure there must be others out there. I know the Pulp, Horror, and Fantasy crowds are going to make the most of these. But I'm sure the SF crowd could put them to good use too, right? So . . . how are you 15mm SF fans planning on using these aquatic humanoids? As product of current pollution (CHUD-like)? As post-apocalyptic mutants? As intentional gene-splicing experimental subjects? As native alien fauna to terrorize your colonists on a far off ocean or swamp world? Or something else entirely? Inquiring minds want to know! Dan TMP link |
Eli Arndt | 03 Apr 2012 6:16 a.m. PST |
Aquatic aliens are always fun. I have sculpted one or two, but I find that you either have to go totally Space Opera with them and leave their heads exposed or you end up with a bunch of cool bodies with fish bowls for heads. -Eli |
VonTed | 03 Apr 2012 6:28 a.m. PST |
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Cacique Caribe | 03 Apr 2012 6:31 a.m. PST |
Mudskippers can remain out of water for about a half hour. Lungfish can do that much, much longer. CHUDs could remain out of water enough to cause mayhem:
Abe Sapiens (from Hellboy) did well with a small water tank around his gills:
And Star Wars' "Mon Calamarii" seemed to do just fine out on land (or ship):
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Eli Arndt | 03 Apr 2012 6:37 a.m. PST |
Indeed they all did. But all of them are very Pulpy and Space Opera type designs. They are good designs and the sort I love, but they all share one thing in common – some sort of intentional hand-waving of the fact they are aquatic so you can see their faces. Deep Ones, don't count. They are freaky star spawn, demony things Abe Sapien is a good compromise, wearing a neck rebreather, goggles and an environment suit. Akbar
well..he's from Star Wars and therefore not bound by anything resembling science. As aquatic as they make the Mon Calamarii out to be, I have my doubts that, if they were handled scientifically, we'd see them outside of full enclosure suits and ships filled with water. I mean, come on, they show them living on the bottom of the oceans of their world! I love them all though and that is why I tend to do the same hand-waving when designing aliens. I don't want an army of bubble helmets. -Eli |
Cacique Caribe | 03 Apr 2012 6:42 a.m. PST |
Eli, I imagine the opposite. A spaceship full of water and any human in the ship would have to be in suits:
The aquatic aliens would be similar to one of the Xindi races in ST Enterprise:
link Dan |
Spudeus | 03 Apr 2012 6:54 a.m. PST |
That's one think I loved about Enterprise (and Bab5) – showing us non-humanoid aliens! |
Eli Arndt | 03 Apr 2012 7:03 a.m. PST |
The Mon Calamarii cruisers are cruid 80-90% by Mon Cal and were built by them. If designed "realistically" I'd say they'd likely be built to fit the parent species. In Enterprise, the Aquatic Xindi ships were full of water except for a few areas designated for visitors. Watch the battle scenes and you will see them venting water when they got hull damage. -Eli |
Cacique Caribe | 03 Apr 2012 7:03 a.m. PST |
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Eli Arndt | 03 Apr 2012 7:06 a.m. PST |
Of course, I already said I prefer the "unrealistic" approach myself. -Eli |
Cacique Caribe | 03 Apr 2012 7:29 a.m. PST |
Eli, I know, I know. Just pushing your buttons. I only do that to people I like. Ask my wife. :) Dan |
(I make fun of others) | 03 Apr 2012 7:32 a.m. PST |
Those Khurusan Deep Ones are stonking. |
Cacique Caribe | 03 Apr 2012 7:43 a.m. PST |
LOL. Dude, you made me go to the dictionary! For a fully aquatic creature I wouldn't go withe the cetacean-like tail they used for the aquatic Xindi. Instead, I would be more inclined to sculpt something like this, but with modified (more amphibian) pectoral fins:
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rvandusen | 03 Apr 2012 7:51 a.m. PST |
I've just finished painting the Khurasan Deep Ones and they are excellent figures. |
Umpapa | 03 Apr 2012 8:11 a.m. PST |
Well, there is a lot of excellent aquatic creatures from Khurasan: sharks, orcas, dolphins etc. There are also nice SHM octopus-liek aliens. |
Eli Arndt | 03 Apr 2012 8:12 a.m. PST |
For a fully aquatic creature I wouldn't go withe the cetacean-like tail I'm not sure that would play out. A paddle is a paddle and nature doeasn't always come up with the most efficient way to do things. -Eli |
Watchtower78 | 03 Apr 2012 6:38 p.m. PST |
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Cacique Caribe | 03 Apr 2012 6:44 p.m. PST |
Yeah. I have a soft spot for that hard shell fish. Dan |
BlackWidowPilot | 03 Apr 2012 6:57 p.m. PST |
Hmmmm
anyone besides me remember the *Nektons* from Starguard? They're 1/72 scale and still in production:
You can look up the Nektons here:
tin-soldier.com
Reviresco also makes a set of "Fishmen" that are on the small 1/72 scale side, so they might make for some additional Deep Ones:
And their Gillmen may also be of interest:
Which reminds me, we're having fish for dinner tonight
Hope this helps!
Leland R. Erickson
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Cacique Caribe | 03 Apr 2012 8:46 p.m. PST |
Well, I hope your fishmen aren't looking! They take offense to that kind of stuff. Dan PS. I think I like those Reviresco fishmen (the smallish 1/72 you mention). I wish there were clearer pics of what they look like. |
Cacique Caribe | 03 Apr 2012 8:50 p.m. PST |
Here's a different take on alien fellas with spaceships full of water:
And here's the city-ship Cameron used for them in the film Abyss:
See! They don't need no stinkin' spacesuits. They simply come out to play on other planets' oceans. But, if they are really smart, they make other creatures take them around in a pretty fish tank:
Dan |
Redroom | 04 Apr 2012 7:31 a.m. PST |
I want to use the Khurasan fishmen from X-COM: Apocalypse – sorry, could not find a picture to link. |
Pole Bitwy PL | 04 Apr 2012 7:46 a.m. PST |
Aquaman with human cultists. |
Eli Arndt | 04 Apr 2012 8:01 a.m. PST |
Piotr, If somebody wants your figures, how do they go about getting them? -Eli |
Pole Bitwy PL | 04 Apr 2012 8:48 a.m. PST |
Hi Eli, The minis and terrain should be online at: auction but in the case they are not [the Aquaman] just write me: sztab@polebitwy.pl and I will respond with all the required information. I had serious issues with my last caster [couldn't get any minis or moulds out of him] last year, so now I have three other casters. I hope to pickup zombies and cultists this week, maybe even tomorrow amd plan to cast all the remaining greens as fast as is possible. The Aquaman is getting three brothers by the way soon. Cheers, Piotr |
Eli Arndt | 04 Apr 2012 9:13 a.m. PST |
Thank you Piotr. We were all wondering what had happened to you. I can wait until they are up on Ebay as I am not in any hurry. What I am really looking forward to is those Eastern Euro troops you picked up. They would be perfect for my rescaled Crisis in Alcovia ( alcovia.blogspot.com ) modern day imagi-nation game. -Eli |