Sylvain | 17 Mar 2012 7:00 p.m. PST |
I had in mind to have a try at 15mm sculpting for a long time and also wanted to try the procreate epoxy putty, so I decided to test both at once and did those 2 "15mm" minis (small zombie is really 15mm, barbarian is more 18mm or 1/100 scale, or very large for 15mm!) and also did a 28mm zombie (29 top of the head) before you wonder, I'm not a necrophylic pervert for sculpting almost topless dead girl, I just wanted to have a try at anatomy (like for the barbarian)and once you've done the anatomic details you don't want to hide those too much
(I hope the hair make her safe for work anyway)
as I'm not that much into 15mm I'm curious to hear opinions from other people
of course, when I say it's my first sculpt with 15mm and procreate, it's not my first attempt at sculpting and I've done a lot of 28mm (and larger) figures with green stuff and various polymer clays you can see my next attempt at procreate here: link |
GR C17 | 17 Mar 2012 7:13 p.m. PST |
ummm WOW! That's a first try?!!! |
Redroom | 17 Mar 2012 7:18 p.m. PST |
The details look really good |
Sylvain | 17 Mar 2012 7:18 p.m. PST |
first try at 15mm and first try with procreate, but not first try at sculpting, read the text after the pics ;) |
Splintered Light Miniatures | 17 Mar 2012 7:28 p.m. PST |
Really nice job. Shoot me an email at splinteredlightminis@earthlink.net if you have a moment please. David |
GR C17 | 17 Mar 2012 7:32 p.m. PST |
I did, still. ok, I looked for several minutes to try and find something to be critical about. Can't. If zombies were my thing I'd want him and a bunch of his friends, sculpted by you, for my horde. Is any of your work being produced? |
TheCount | 17 Mar 2012 8:32 p.m. PST |
Excellent work! Not a fan of zombies but they're well done. Do like Barbarian types and yours would look really good amongst Mark Copplestone's range I'd say. Nice. Have been working with GreenStuff for some 6mm & 10mm sculpts but curious about Procreate. How do you find working with it? Regards, TC. |
David Miniature Armies | 18 Mar 2012 3:06 a.m. PST |
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Captain Clegg | 18 Mar 2012 3:52 a.m. PST |
Stunning detail on small figures |
infojunky | 18 Mar 2012 4:19 a.m. PST |
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Samulus | 18 Mar 2012 4:27 a.m. PST |
These are fantastic, just the kind of talent we need in 15mm, keep 'em coming ( there will be no shortage of manufacturers looking to cast them for you
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Sylvain | 18 Mar 2012 4:36 a.m. PST |
thanks all, @GR C17: well, I can see a lot a minor flaws on the pics ;) but won't change those as they look good enough with the mini in hand. regarding my work beeing produced, not sure if you mean those or other works, but I have a lot of larger sculpts produced by different manufacturers. regarding those minis I'll probably get them cast at some stage, but it could be a long time before I've time for that @David: OK, will do @ TheCount: it's very close from green stuff, different color obviously (harder to juge the ratio in you mix by the color than with GS ), a little less sticky, and less form memory (it's up to each one to know if it's a good thing for them or not) I have no real problem switching from one putty to the other, changing my old roll of green stuff for a fresh one was maybe a bigger difference in consistancy. Also I sometime work with different polymer clays (fimo, sculpey, etc) which are more different betwen them or compared with epoxy, so really GS/PC are really very similar for me edit: oh, and procreate is a little easier to work once curred (cut, sand, etc
though you can do that on green too and it's not as good as miliput) |
TheCount | 18 Mar 2012 11:45 a.m. PST |
Thanks for the update Sylvain, I will try Procreate sometime. Well, I guess you'll have success with these and I look forward to seeing some more of your work. En avant! |
Stealth1000 | 18 Mar 2012 11:53 a.m. PST |
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Grey Matter 13 | 18 Mar 2012 12:06 p.m. PST |
If at first you don't succeed
wait. Crap. Now what? Fabulous "first try"!! Really good job on the 15mm! Makes me really want to paint or see the work of someone else. Can you "first try" some more? |
Zephyr1 | 18 Mar 2012 2:27 p.m. PST |
Your ability to do skinny fingers that small makes me jealous
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Sundance | 18 Mar 2012 4:11 p.m. PST |
Excellent for a first go! |
deviantsaint | 19 Mar 2012 3:53 p.m. PST |
Really want that zombie for my hoard. Wish the female was 15mm
Please do more! |
Sylvain | 19 Mar 2012 6:08 p.m. PST |
thanks guys. but I still think you focus too much on the "first try" thing ;) having done hundreds of 28mm, some beeing tiny like goblins or halfelings I had the experience of small details and putty control I need for 15mm. Sure, those are smaller and less bulky, but the difference is not that big that we may think. Now a 15 halfling could be a challenge
. On the other hand, having no experience with the scale I was curious to know if the style and level of details looks good for 15mm painter (I guess it is from the feedback?) and also what you think of their actual size? The only 15mm I own are some medievals and gauls from corvus belli, 15mm to the eyes, but I suspect 15mm has scale creep too, and I read that many ranges are actually 18mm? Some sculptors are going for the 1/100 scale, which would match 18mm pretty well (if mesured top of the head). So I was not sure if I should do them 15 or 18mm (so I did one of each!) may be usefull if I decide to do more ;) @Zephyr1: yes, open hands are a pain to sculpt, and the size doesn't help ;)
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ancientsgamer | 21 Mar 2012 8:46 p.m. PST |
Yes, there is scale creep. Chiefly with Old Glory, AB, Blue Moon and quite a few others having moved in this direction. Battlefront as well. Essex and Corvus are closer to true 15mm but they are still bigger than what was the standard at one time. Namely, Minifigs and Heritage. The older lines tend to be closer to 15mm and work well with each other. Newer lines tend to be the afforementioned 18mm as you stated above. Interestingly enough, fantasy and Sci-Fi tend to be in the larger category from what I have seen. Splintered Light has two scales essentially with one scale being closer to 20mm actually. His historical stuff is 18mm scale. If I were doing fantasy or Sci-Fi, I would look at doing them in 18mm sizing. As Connard Sage used to say, it isn't a scale, it is a size. Your 1/100 is the scale that has become more common (or 18mm for us heretics!) Very, very nice figures by the way. You have definitely picked up the right amount of detail for this scale. Have a look at AB and some of the Battle Honours lines too. Anthony Barton is quite the sculptor in 18mm, errr, 1/100 scale ;-) |
clkeagle | 24 Mar 2012 10:22 p.m. PST |
Agreed with the above. For fantasy and sci-fi, 1/100 (roughly 18mm to the top of the head) is more or less the standard. The term 15mm describes eye-level with our crowd, not top-of-head. I'll definitely buy a set of barbarians if David ends up producing them. Those would be perfect for 15mm Heroquest-inspired games. :) -Chris K. |
Sylvain | 26 Mar 2012 4:13 p.m. PST |
thanks for your advices. I had a look at AB miniatures, and they are indeed very nice for 15mm. I was also aware of Tom Meier's 15mm SF figures for kurashan, it's funny how they'd be good figures even if upscaled at 28mm ;) I'll make a few more 1/100 figures then, essentially fantasy I'll let you know the result ;) |
Timothy L Mayer | 13 May 2012 7:54 p.m. PST |
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Scousebadger | 04 Jan 2018 12:25 a.m. PST |
I love that barbarian! I'm sorry we never saw more |