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Kaoschallenged Inactive Member03 Mar 2012 8:02 p.m. PST

Roe over at Tiny Thingamajigs has just released 2 new 3D printed 1/600 aircraft for the 1930s. Both look great. Robert

Boeing P-26A Peashooter
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And,

Curtiss F9C Sparrowhawk
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Personal logo Texas Jack Supporting Member of TMP04 Mar 2012 6:51 a.m. PST

A P-26 at any scale is totally cool!

Kaoschallenged Inactive Member04 Mar 2012 3:55 p.m. PST

I have to agree grin. I'll be picking some up soon for my Philippine Army Air Corps and Chinese Nationalist Air Force. Robert

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boy wundyr x Supporting Member of TMP05 Mar 2012 8:43 a.m. PST

Nice! I think this is starting to make the decision for me as to do Interwar in 1/300 (my WWI collection) or 1/600 (everything else). Guess I'll have to pick up some of those late WWI birds that stuck around through the 1920s and very early 30s in 1/600 – that'll be a fun paint job.

I'll also have to start looking for a Akron or Macon model in some smaller scale.

Kaoschallenged Inactive Member05 Mar 2012 8:51 p.m. PST

There is a free paper model of the Akron. Not sure what scale. But you can probably print it out at 1/600. I know it might be fiddley and difficult cuz its paper/cardstock. But it's whats out there :). Robert

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Kaoschallenged Inactive Member20 Mar 2012 11:02 p.m. PST

Just got the P-26s by UPS and they are really really good. They even have the pilot in the cockpit!. Robert

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Kaoschallenged Inactive Member02 Apr 2012 3:53 p.m. PST

How about a list of Interwar aircraft that people would like? Robert

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BlackWidowPilot Supporting Member of TMP Fezian02 Apr 2012 8:25 p.m. PST

A list you say? Well, I can *recommend* some inter-war types on the basis of their actual combat deployment during the 30s and during the early stages of WW2:

Curtis Hawk II biplane fighter (China, Thailand, Gran Chaco War)

Curtis BF2C1 biplane fighter (China, Thailand)

Curtis Hawk 75 fixed gear export fighter (China, Thailand)

Fiat CR 32 biplane fighter (SCW, China)

Breda 27 fighter (China)

Polikarpov I-15 biplane fighter (SCW, China, VVS at Nomonhan, Winter War, Operation Barbarossa)

Polikarpov I-153 biplane fighter (China, VVS at Nomonhan, Winter War, Operation Barbarossa)

Polikarpov I-15bis biplane fighter (China, VVS at Nomonhan, Winter War, Operation Barbarossa)

Polikarpov R-5 two-seater biplane recce/army cooperation (SCW, VVS at Nomonhan, Winter War, Operation Barbarossa)

Tupolev SB-2 (SCW, China, Nomonhan, Winter War, Barbarossa)

Fokker D XXI (Winter War, Five Days Battle 1940)

Fokker C V two-seater (Winter War, Five Days Battle, Continuation War)

Heinkel He-51 (SCW)

Dewoitine D510 (SCW, China)

Northrop A-12 Shrike (China)

Nakajima Ki-10 "Perry" biplane fighter (Sino-Japanese War)

Nakajima Ki-27 "Nate" (Sino-Japanese War, Nomonhan, WW2)

Mitsubishi A5M "Claude" (Sino-Japanese War, Nomonhan, WW2)

Savoia-Marchetti SM 81 Pipistrello (SCW, WW2)

Junkers Ju52 bomber variant (SCW)


Hope this helps!


Leland R. Erickson

Kaoschallenged Inactive Member03 Apr 2012 2:42 a.m. PST

Just off the top of my head the following are already available in 1/600,

Fiat CR.32
Fokker D.XXI
Fokker C V
SB-2
I-15
I-153
I-16
A5M "Claude
Ki-27 "Nate"
P-26
Martin B-10/139WH-3
Curtiss F9C Sparrowhawk

Are there any others that people would like to see made in 1/600? I know some want various aircraft to do "what ifs?". Robert

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BlackWidowPilot Supporting Member of TMP Fezian03 Apr 2012 12:39 p.m. PST

Robert,

thanks for that info! I am amazed that the Fokker D XXi, C V, and Polikarpov biplanes are available in 1/600 scale; seems like the 1/600 scale makers are as eclectic in their interests as any… cool. evil grin


Leland R. Erickson

Kaoschallenged Inactive Member03 Apr 2012 8:40 p.m. PST

Yes they are Leland. Though some are more responsive to others in their eclectic tastes wink. I have sent quite a few 3-views to Roe and Arun of aircraft used between the wars and into the early part of WWII. There is also these available,


HAWKER NIMROD/FURY
GLADIATOR
ME-109D
FIAT CR.42
FIAT BR.20
RENARD R31
SAVOIA MARCHETTI SM.79
AVIA B.534

Robert

BlackWidowPilot Supporting Member of TMP Fezian04 Apr 2012 12:36 p.m. PST

Very cool. The Gladiator and the Fury are perfect for China and SCW respectively. In 1/144 scale Reviresco has made an effort to produce a fairly extensive array of aircraft suitable for the Sino-Japanese conflict up to and including the arrival of the AVG. Still, there are some holes in the KMT Chinese Air Force inventory…

What rules do you use for this scale BTW?


Leland R. Erickson

Kaoschallenged Inactive Member04 Apr 2012 3:48 p.m. PST

I have been working on my KMT right now. I have the P-26,CW-21,Martin-139WH-3,and of course the P-40. I have some 1-16s on order and am going to order some I-153s and SB-2s soon. And of course I will need CR.32s and Gladiators. I forgot to add to the list above the Fairey Fox too that is available. I was using BTH since there were stats out there for interwar aircraft. I'm not sure if BTH2 has them. There are a couple of other rule sets with stats out there. I have also used "Scramble!" in the past. Robert

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gweirda Supporting Member of TMP04 Apr 2012 7:38 p.m. PST

"What rules do you use for this scale…?

No false modesty, just blatant self-promotion…
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It's not strictly midwar, but…
it does give a good tabletop picture of the action…

Kaoschallenged Inactive Member04 Apr 2012 10:42 p.m. PST

Are there any Aircraft stats gweirda? Robert

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gweirda Supporting Member of TMP05 Apr 2012 8:30 a.m. PST

"…Aircraft stats…?"

Not really. The WAD version gives the rationale / math, and I'll gladly communicate 'offline' with anyone interested in the numbers I use I'll selfishly post an advertisement, but draw the line at hijacking the entire thread…I've got some limits! ; )

To be honest, since WW1 data is iffy at best I figured letting each individual/group decide on what they were happy with was best. That, and the fact that I'm really just 'concept testing' caused me to forego getting deep into research/number-crunching.

Kaoschallenged Inactive Member05 Apr 2012 5:11 p.m. PST

LOL Well I just must be lazy then wink. I really don't want to put that much work into a set of rules. grin. Robert


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Kaoschallenged Inactive Member05 Apr 2012 5:52 p.m. PST

The Kawasaki Ki-32 "Mary" for the Sino-Japanese war is another that is available and the Henschel Hs-123,Do-17E and Do-17P for the SCW. And the Henschel Hs-123 for the Sino-Japanese War. Robert

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gweirda Supporting Member of TMP05 Apr 2012 7:45 p.m. PST

"…put that much work into a set of rules."

I appreciate the humor, but also stand by my assertion that anyone accepting any performance data as given in any ruleset is doing no better than pulling numbers out of a hat.

Kaoschallenged Inactive Member05 Apr 2012 8:17 p.m. PST

I guess I trust in those who created the stats then *Grin*. Most if not all have in some way stats for the aircraft to be used in the game. It is usually what I look for when purchasing. Robert

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Kaoschallenged Inactive Member05 Apr 2012 11:08 p.m. PST

Another I failed to mention is the Gloucester Guantlet. It can be used for the Finns and in the Middle East 1940 with the RAF. Robert

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Kaoschallenged Inactive Member06 Apr 2012 12:52 p.m. PST

So back to the OT. What other aircraft would you like to see? I know for sure I would like to see the He-51 and D.510. Robert

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Kaoschallenged Inactive Member07 Apr 2012 5:22 p.m. PST

Some of the Wars Post-WWI and the 20's would be using these,

Russian Civil War (1917-1922)

Russia (White Guards)
Airco DH.9/9A
Albatros C.I/C.III/C.IV/C.V/C.VII/C.VIII/C.X/C.XII/C.XV
Farman F.30/F.40
Hansa-Brandenburg B.I/C.I
LWF Model V Tractor
Nieuport 17/21/23/24/25/27
RAF RE.8
Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter
Sopwith 7F.1 Snipe
Sopwith F.1 Camel
Anatra Anade/Anasal

USSR/Russia
Caudron G.IV
Farman F.30/F.40
LVG B.I/B.II/C.I/C.II/C.III
LVG C.V/C.VI
Nieuport 11/16 Bebe
Nieuport 17/21/23/24/25/27
RAF SE.5
SPAD S.VII
Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter
Sopwith F.1 Camel
Sopwith Triplane/Tripe
Grigorovich M-9/M-15
Sikorsky Iliya Muromets

Great Britain
Airco DH.9/9A
Short S.80/81/166/184/827/830

France
Breguet Br.14/Br.17

Far Eastern Republic
Farman F.30/F.40

Polish-Ukrainian War (1918-1919)
Ukraine
Nieuport 17/21/23/24/25/27

Poland
Fokker D.VIII/E.V

Latvian War of Independence (1918-1920)

Latvia
Nieuport 17/21/23/24/25/27
Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter

Germany (WWI)
Junkers J.8/J.10 (CL.I)

Polish-Soviet War (1919-1921)
Poland
Albatros D.I/D.II/D.III/D.V/Dr.I
Breguet Br.14/Br.17
Fokker D.VII
Halberstadt CL.II/CL.IV
LVG C.V/C.VI
RAF SE.5
Sopwith F.1 Camel

USSR/Russia
Nieuport 17/21/23/24/25/27
RAF RE.8
SPAD S.VII

So some of the WWI aircraft available can be used though there are gaps there too. Especially French.
Robert

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Kaoschallenged Inactive Member09 Apr 2012 9:52 p.m. PST

And of course the amount of different types used in the SCW. Robert

Spanish Civil War 2 (1936-1939)
Spain (Republicans)
Airspeed AS.6/AS.8 Envoy/Viceroy
Avia 51
Bloch MB.200
Bloch MB.210 Verdum
Boeing P-26 Peashooter
Breguet Br.19
Breguet Br.460/Br.462 Vultur
Breguet Br.470 Fulgur
Bristol Bulldog
Caudron C.440/C.444/C.445/C.448/C.449 Goeland
Dewoitine D.27/D.53
Dewoitine D.37/D.372
Dewoitine D.500/D.510
Fiat CR.32
Focke-Wulf Fw.56 SBleeped text
Fokker C.X
Grumman FF-1/SF-1/G-23 Goblin/Delfin
Hawker Fury
Hawker Osprey
Hispano E-30
Koolhoven FK.51
Latecoere Late 28/290
Letov S.231/S.331
Lockheed Model 9 Orion
Loire 43/45/46
Loire-Gourdou-Lesseure LGL-32/GL-633
Miles M.2/23 Hawk/Hawk Speed
Miles M.3 Falcon/Falcon Major/Falcon Six
Morane-Saulnier MS.229/230/233/236
Nieuport-Delage NiD-42/52/62/72
Northrop 1 Delta
Northrop 2/3/5 Gamma
Potez 540/542
RWD RWD-9
Romano R.80/R.82
Savoia Marchetti S.62
Vickers Vildebeest
Vultee V-1
de Havilland DH.80 Puss Moth
de Havilland DH.84/89/90 Dragon/Dragon Rapide/Dominie
Polikarpov I-15/I-152 (I-15bis)
Polikarpov I-153 Chaika
Polikarpov I-16
Polikarpov R-5/R-Z/PR-5
Tupolev SB/B.71

Spain (Nationalists)
Aero A-100/A-101
Arado Ar.66
Arado Ar.68
Arado Ar.95
Avia BH-33/Ba-33
Avro 581/594/616 Avian
Breda Ba.64/Ba.65
Breguet Br.19
CRDA CANT Z.501 Gabbiano
CRDA CANT Z.506 Airone
Caproni Ca.301/305/307/308/AP-1 Apio
Dornier Do.15/Do.J/Do.R Wal/Super Wal
Dornier Do.17/Do.215
Fiat BR.20 Cicogna
Fiat CR.32
Fiat G.50 Freccia
Fieseler Fi.156 Storch/MS.500 Criquet
General Aircraft ST-4/ST-6/ST-10/ST-12/ST-25 Monospar/Universal
Hawker Fury
Heinkel He.111
Heinkel He.112
Heinkel He.51
Heinkel He.59
Heinkel He.60
Heinkel He.70/He.170
Henschel Hs.123
Henschel Hs.126
IMAM Ro.37
IMAM Ro.41
Junkers Ju.52
Junkers Ju.86
Junkers Ju.87 Stuka
Macchi M.41/M.71
Messerschmitt Bf.108 Taifun
Messerschmitt Bf.109B/C/D Bertha/Caesar/Dora
Messerschmitt Bf.109E Emil
PWS PWS-10
RWD RWD-13
Savoia Marchetti SM.79 Sparviero
Savoia Marchetti SM.81 Pipistrello

Spain – Lineas Aerenas Postales Espanolas
Douglas DC-1/DC-2/DC-3/C-47/C-53/Dakota
Fokker F.VII
Ford 3-AT/4-AT/5-AT Tri-Motor

Germany (Nazi)
Heinkel He.111

Germany (Nazi) – Deutsche Lufthansa
Junkers Ju.60/Ju.160

Italy (fascists) – Ala Littoria
Savoia Marchetti SM.75/SM.76 Marsupiale

wp.scn.ru/en/cat/wars/ww15/6

Robert

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Kaoschallenged Inactive Member10 Apr 2012 11:58 a.m. PST

With the Sino-Japanese conflict coming a close second.

Japanese occupation of China (1937-1941)
China (Nationalists)
Boeing P-26 Peashooter
Breda Ba.27 Metallico
Curtiss A-8/10/12 Shrike
Curtiss-Wright Hawk II/III/Goshawk/P-6/F11C/BFC-2/BF2C
Dewoitine D.500/D.510
Douglas O-2
Gloster Gladiator
Heinkel He.111
Henschel Hs.123
Martin Type 139/166/B-10/B-12
Northrop 2/3/5 Gamma
Savoia Marchetti SM.81 Pipistrello
Vultee A-19 (V-11)/BSh-1
Polikarpov I-15/I-152 (I-15bis)
Polikarpov I-153 Chaika
Polikarpov I-16
Tupolev SB/B.71

Japan
Aichi D1A Susie
Aichi D3A Val
Fairchild F-91 Baby Clipper
Fiat BR.20 Cicogna
Junkers S.36/K.37/Ki-1/Ki-2/Type 93 Louise
Kawasaki Ki-10 Perry
Kawasaki Ki-3
Kawasaki Ki-32 Mary
Kawasaki Ki-48 Sokei/Lily
Kawasaki Type 88/KDA-2/KDC-2
Mitsubishi A5M Claude/Sandy
Mitsubishi A6M Reisen/Zeke/Zero/Rufe
Mitsubishi G3M Nell
Mitsubishi Ki-15 Babs/Karigane
Mitsubishi Ki-30 Nagoya/Ann
Nakajima A2N
Nakajima A4N
Nakajima Ki-27 Nate/Clint
Nakajima Ki-4
Seversky P-35/2PA Guardsman
Yokosuka B3Y
Yokosuka B4Y Jean
Yokosuka E1Y

wp.scn.ru/en/cat/wars/ww15/23

Robert

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Kaoschallenged Inactive Member15 Apr 2012 11:59 a.m. PST

So. Out of all those listed what would you like to see? Robert


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Kaoschallenged Inactive Member24 Nov 2012 8:35 p.m. PST

With the new revamp of Tumbling Dice's website and the addition of the new TD aircraft like the aircraft used in the SCW and Sino-Japanese War. The Dewoitine 370,Dewoitine D.510,Nieuport-Delage 52,Breguet XIX,He-51 and He-70. Robert

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Kaoschallenged Inactive Member24 Nov 2012 10:09 p.m. PST

And from TD There is also the Vickers Vilderbeast,Hawker Hart/Hind, Hawker Osprey (float plane)and De Haviland Dragon Rapide for the British. And the Junkers Ju52-3mg For Germany/Spain. Robert

Kaoschallenged Inactive Member26 Nov 2012 7:13 p.m. PST

And I forgot the He-111B for both the SCW and Sino-Japanese War too. Robert

Kaoschallenged Inactive Member29 Nov 2012 11:31 p.m. PST

And I forgot the He-59,Hs-126,Ba.65 for the SCW too. Robert

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