"BBC News - Could Britain still defend the Falklands?" Topic

Yep FAG are working hard to bring down world colonialism …..

"To those who advocate invading after crossing 300 miles of South Atlantic waters in small boats, I say : after you please! You wouldn't be fit to fight your way out of a sleeping bag…"

Prestage from freighters and fishing trawlers much closer than 300 miles.

I suspect you can get a fishing boat within a few miles, unnoticed. Wouldn't take too much to launch 1 or two small boats from that far out. 1 or 2 teams could cause a lot of havoc for a long time…

Nmber 4 – given the Argentinian military IS more decrepit than ours, it seems a reasonable tactic.

The Argies have nothing that can go toe to toe with the current forces deployed.

Re: Penn

I thought he only hated the U.S., If I had any question over who should keep the Falklands it has been totally resolved.

Back on topic, I don't think the Argentinian could catch the natives sleeping again. I am willing to bet that there are quite a few intelligence assets on the ground in Argentina today.

I see aging prog-rocker Roger Waters has also now weighed into the debate.

On open moors and bogs? With no fuel, no food, no shelter? With the only settlements that might come across in radio communication with Stanley? How long would they last?

They'd also be very easy to spot on thermal imaging, as fitted to SAR Sea Kings, Navy Lynxes and other things. Nice warm bodies in open, cold terrain.

Large groups of fifth columnists can land and operate quite openly and even get support from the UK government as they appear to do on the mainland

The Chileans reportedly have at least one sub that can launch Exocets, so if the Argentines could craft a South American coalition together, they might be a threat. That shouldn't be too difficult to do, if they promise a share of any oil profits.
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Thats a bit of a misplaced view of South American solidarity -I think that Chile wil only ever be helping Argentina after the UK has signed a treaty of alliance with the latter – think of the love between Germany and Holland if you want a parallel

Oooh, I don't know. Where I live in Chile they love Argentinians. When a cabby tries to rip me off I tell him that I am not an Argentinian and the fare goes back down to where it belongs.

Number4, that's an excellent idea! I commend your suggestion to provide 'government assistance' in getting our own Fifth Columnists to the Falklands. :)

Remember chaps, Loose Lips Sink Ships!

Kerchner's obviously a TMPer and has been trawling this thread for ideas. Here comes the Argie airliner packed with commandos! link

Unleash the Suicide Penguins!

I'm not certain, but I don't know how many airliners Argentina has. LAN (a Chilean company) was rapidly dominating domestic services and Aerolineas was in some sort of zombified insolvency.

Latest is that Argentina wants to take over the regular airlink to the Falklands with it's flag carrier, rather thsn Chile who do the job at the moment.

Did someone mention special forces and an airliner ??

Doh !

GNREP8: "if the Argentines could craft a South American coalition together, they might be a threat. That shouldn't be too difficult to do, if they promise a share of any oil profits."

Sooner or later . . .

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Dan

"I think the main reason the Falkland Islands will stay British is the firm resolve of the Falkland Islanders to remain so…"

If I were the Argentinans the next time around I would deport every single resident and replace them with Argentinans as soon as the shooting stopped.

If I were the Argentinans the next time around I would deport every single resident and replace them with Argentinans as soon as the shooting stopped.

What ethnic cleansing? Is there any sign of Argentina employing Bosnian Serb military advisors……

Latest is that Argentina wants to take over the regular airlink to the Falklands with it's flag carrier, rather thsn Chile who do the job at the moment.

That flight is apparently well used by Falklanders, which is interesting. Presumably it currently goes to Chile. Would it still be used as much if it went to Argentina?

Bit off topic and very tit for tat, but we could just refuse entry to any flights from Argentina… :-)

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The main exports of Argentina are food, meat and manufacturing products. The main export partners of Argentina are Brazil, Chile, the United States, China and Spain.

The main imports of Argentina are food, fuel, energy and capital goods. The main import partners of Argentina are Brazil, US, Germany, Italy and Spain.

Amended to include suicide penguin contingent:

Yo-ho. Do we fight for a King or an Emperor?

Geoff, brilliant! :O)

Let them have them back, AFTER China frees Tibet, Russia returns it's Islands to Japan, and all the South American countries return to Bolivia all the land they've stolen off her, France returns Aquitaine to England, and Waters and Penn have been put in the stocks.

You forgot Spain returning Florida to Britain, Argentina returning Patagonia to Chile, and Brazil contracting to its treaty of Tordesillas border.

You forgot Spain returning Florida to Britain, Argentina returning Patagonia to Chile, and Brazil contracting to its treaty of Tordesillas border

What about Mexico?

The Alamo?

"What ethnic cleansing? Is there any sign of Argentina employing Bosnian Serb military advisors……"-Prince Rupert

I said deport not kill! No British citizens makes it harder to claim retaking the islands in the future as a mission of mercy or liberation. The reference to Bosnian Serbs was not warranted and a tad dramatic…

I am not certain whether mass deportation of ethnic groups, Incan style is considered genocide, but it is certainly ethnic cleansing. When you move a frontier by force, you retain an obligation to the inhabitants as an occupying power.

"I am not certain whether mass deportation of ethnic groups, Incan style is considered genocide, but it is certainly ethnic cleansing"

Ok call it ethnic cleansing if you desire but that term in conjunction with Bosnian Serbs implies mass murder and rape, I advocated neither of those.

"When you move a frontier by force, you retain an obligation to the inhabitants as an occupying power."

I would give the Falklanders the chance to renounce their UK citizenship. If they refuse then they are deported and no obligation remains.

For the record I side with the UK on the ownership of the Falklands.

Exactly move or kill it's still ethnic cleansing and hardly going to fool the international community. Depending on how much the islanders resist (likely I would have thought given the feelings) casulities might be unavoidable. If the Islanders resist it wouldn't be a massive leap for things to get out of hand. Much better for the Argentinans to leave the islanders be I would have thought.

As for the Serbs they're already in Latin America

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Ta.

I was originally going to do the penguins at the same ratio as the soldiers. Then I realised just how many of the little sods there are.

I didn't add the sheep commandos though.

"Exactly move or kill it's still ethnic cleansing"-Prince Rupert

Your reference to Serbs was pure sensationalism…

"As for the Serbs they're already in Latin America"- Prince Rupert

Fifty Serbian mercenaries working for drug cartels hardly constitutes an argument for ethnic cleansing. If that is the logic of your argument then the brits could be guilty of it also (see link).

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"Much better for the Argentinans to leave the islanders be I would have thought."- Prince Rupert

I watched a debate on this subject and the major issue for the UK was the Falklanders wanted to remain UK citizens. If there are no UK citizens on the Falkland Islands problem is solved for the Argentinans.

There is also the fact that we claimed the place decades before the state of Argentina existed….

I'm amused by the Argentine horror at being called colonialists – seems they've not realised their entire nation is a testament to colonisation.

The history of the Argentine militaries camapigns against the indigenous population isn't pretty, even by contemporary standards.

The history of the Argentine militaries camapigns against the indigenous population isn't pretty, even by contemporary standards.

No, but if you are going to dispossess people, it is only culturally sensitive to use the same approach as they have used for thousands of years.

Can't see Chile and Argentina making nice enough to engage in a military alliance. Nor can I see too many of their neighbours being keen to support them for what would ultimately only benefit Argentina. They still claim overlapping chunks of the South Atlantic and Antarctica. Which on the subject of colonialism makes the Argentinian Presidents comments just a touch hypocritical based on the fat wedge of territory they seem to think they own. The Falkland's and a number of British dependencies clearly put rather a wrinkle in that pretty picture.

They also ought to look up the definition of colonialism and consider they fact that they permanently station families at some of their Antarctic bases….

Cancel the suicide penguins! Plan B: Air-launched suicide ancient lefty rockers. I imagine that you could get quite a lot of P4 up Morrissey's expansive arse… Provided he stops talking out of it for one second.

Looks like a case for bypass surgery to me. Maybe they could try to link his vocal cords to his mouth.

What I can't understand is why Argentina hasn't already surrendered following the deployment of the UK's most diabolical sonic weapon. I'd have at least expected half of Argentina to commit suicide through depression caused by Morrissey-exposure.

Has anyone asked Venezuela if they want to join Argentina in a re-taking of the Malvinas?

I think they are itching to start some trouble . . . with anyone.

Dan

Chavez has stated on quite a few occasions, that he would do exactly that. He's also stated that the Venezuelan armed forces would attempt to intercept any British task force heading south.

However, actions of the 'Mussolini of the South' rarely match his boasts, so I don't see it as very likely.

Look out! One of those suicide penguins is on the loose!! link

In response to Mr R Mark Davies and the Lisbon Treaty:

Aye, correct sir – I think it rests on some Articles (35 and 42?) in the 'Treaty on European Union' (cons.) – and Falkland Islands (plus South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands and British Antarctic Territory) are all listed in Annex II of the 'Treaty of the Functioning of the EU' (cons.)

So France and the Netherlands got their overseas territiories mentioned, so did the UK – and as a slight sideways interest, Greenland is on there too :o)

Polish Airborne in Port Stanley – and Greek Evzoni in Nuuk!

Cheers Knockers! I thought I might have been imagining it. Yes, that would be an interesting scenario!

Kerchner is at it again – once again stating that other people's property is hers by Divine Right.

The Falklanders and the UK are also now apparently 'illegally disobeying UN Resolutions', which must be sonmething of a surprise to the UN…

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Whatever next?

Believe me = that woman is capable of ANYTHING.

You'd think the UN would tell her to clear off.

Considering China is in possetion of Tibet, in far more controversial circumstances, you'd think China would be telling her to do one n all.
And Russia, USA since they've all taken land off other folks and made it their own.

I'd start beefing up the defences myself. History suggests that they'll make another try sometime….

I wouldn't put it past the Wicked Witch of the South to order the removal of the keys from Fray Bentos tins.

And on it rumbles:

bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17442215

Rattle, rattle, rattle… The hilt is going to fall off the Argentine sabre at this rate:

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