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leg1on09 Feb 2012 12:35 a.m. PST

Hi All,

Probabilities not being my forte, can anyone tell me if it is easier to win once or two out of three at say a dice-off, coin flip, guessing the closest number between one and 10, &c.?

I've thought about it for a while and looked online as well to no avail.

Thanks for any insights.

Yours,

Legion

(Phil Dutre)09 Feb 2012 2:47 a.m. PST

If both players have an equal chance of winning a single around (50-50), then the chances of winning exactly 2 rounds out of 3 are:

0.5*0.5*0.5*3 = 0.375

The chances of winning exactly 3 rounds out of 3 = 0.5*0.5*0.5 = 0.125

The chance of winning exactly one round = 0.375 (symmetry with 1st case)

The chance of winning 0 rounds = 0.125 (symmetry with 2nd case)


But maybe this isn't what you're asking for?

Dynaman878909 Feb 2012 5:10 a.m. PST

2 out of 3 and a single toss ends up about the same.

a single toss, each side has a 50/50 chance of winning.

when there are 2 people, with 3 tosses, each one has a 50 percent chance of winning. (this continues no matter how many times, as long as you use an odd number 3 out of 5, 4 out of 7, etc…) There are more variations with more flips, sometimes winning 5 of 5 instead of just 3 of 5, but the chance of winning at least 3 is still roughly 50%.

for the math.
With 3 rolls there are four possible outcomes. with the following ways of them happening

0 of the tosses 1 way this can happen (lose lose lose)
1 of the tosses 3 ways (win lose lose, lose win lose, lose lose win)
2 of the tosses 3 ways (win win lose, win lose win, lose win win)
3 of the tosses 1 (win win win)

4 ways you can win overall, 4 ways you can lose overall. So a 50% chance.

Even numbers are slightly different, winning 2 out of 4, there are some cases where each side could win exactly twice – if that results in a roll off then the odds go back to 50%, if not then the tie has to be accounted for so each persons odds gets closer and closer to 50% (without ever actually making it to 50%) the more times you roll.

Marshal Mark09 Feb 2012 5:30 a.m. PST

I think you need to be a bit more specific with the question.

But on the coin toss, if you toss a coin three times the possible outcomes are :
WWW
WWL
WLW
WLL
LWW
LWL
LLW
LLL

Each of these outcome has an equal (0.125) probablity. So the probabilty of winning exactly two out of three is 3 x 0.125 = 0.375.
The probability of winning two or more times is 0.5.

leg1on09 Feb 2012 9:56 p.m. PST

Thanks guys.

Very helpful.

Legion

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