"Iran’s flying boat squadron ..." Topic

…is right out of a James Bond film.
Ha!Ha!.
What a interesting new wargame with those flying boats!
Who Company began to made them at scale?
Do you used?

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I love it. I'm glad someone is out there coming up with kooky schemes.

On the "hah hah, wait, this isn't funny" side, these remind me of Millennium Challenge, where a clever Marine Corps LTG in charge of a fictional Iranian force was able to swiftly decimate the US Navy in the Gulf through the use of light attack boats, cruise missiles, etc.

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I liked the Zepplin Cavalry quote

Old news Tango. This wonder weapon was discussed when they were first announced 2 years ago and quickly forgotten. And in those two years I think that no one has felt the need to either make any or game any. Robert

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Would they still wear the lifejackets while on a suicide mission?

They'll make perfect CIWS targets, albeit a little slow for them, no doubt.

Still, will give them something to shoot at in the air, which along with their small motor boats, should shred nicely.

I suspect James Bond's small, portable, but heavily armed heli from the late 1950's – early 1960's is much better, so we will be looking to the British to bring a bunch of those along to help provide air cover.

Still, I would like to have a nice, flying boat ultralight for getting to the local, and medium-ranged dive sites. I wonder if there is an export market?

I hope they don't embargo them from sale, along with their oil.

I've wanted a model or miniature of one of these little wing-in-ground-effect planes for decades ow, since at least the mid-70s. I'd love to see some manufacturer step up to the plate. Some of the big Soviet/Russian WIGs have been kitted, but none of the smaller ones.

Yup, this has been around a while. I used a couple of articles on this and pics in a presentation I did on the Iranian arms industry nearly a year ago.

On the "hah hah, wait, this isn't funny" side, these remind me of Millennium Challenge, where a clever Marine Corps LTG in charge of a fictional Iranian force was able to swiftly decimate the US Navy in the Gulf through the use of light attack boats, cruise missiles, etc.

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Holy that read just like the IJN Combined Fleet exercise before Midway.

Yeah. You aren't the only one to make that conclusion. :(

Well if it's Bond's little helicopter you need it was called Little Nellie and was really an autogyro.

Anyone for the Avro 671 Rota Mk1 link . Perhaps Duxford could be persuaded to do it up and lend it to the Fleet Air Arm for anti-flying boat contingencies?

Well, didn't the British experiment with armoured divisions between the Wars, prove standard divisions with cavalry didn't stand a chance, change the rules so the cavalry won, then had Germany reap the benefits. Seems like a good military tradition – build up a weapons system, then defend it against all comers even if that involves cheating.

Actually, massed attacks swamping systems is quite old – torpedo boats, which then resulted in the invention of torpedo boat destroyers , being one.

I'm trying to imagine how a modern fleet would cope with a few hundred speed boats rushing towards them, each boat carrying one or two missiles with a basic guidance system.
Especially if they have a couple of hundred pre-programmed drones flying overhead.

Quite simply, would the modern fleet run out of defensive missiles due to the sheer number of targets? Granted, point defence gatling type weapons there – but would they be enough?

"I'm trying to imagine how a modern fleet would cope with a few hundred speed boats rushing towards them, each boat carrying one or two missiles with a basic guidance system."

Nothing happens in a vaccuum, especially in the most monitored area of the seas… This was exactly the scenario in the late 1980's with Iranian "suicide boats & planes" that were threatening shipping from oil platforms.

Back then, it was countered with "on-call" aircraft (A-6's, F-14's, F/A-18's) outfitted with multiple 20mm gun packs in addition/substitution to what would be considered their normal payload.

I was deployed out there at the time on Operation Earnest Will onboard the USS Ranger, the Marine Det was manning the carriers .50 cal sponsons 24/7 (a cool dozen of them), so there was that as well – but it was a lesser tech threat than now, so, well, there you go.

A least two dozen times, the Iranians tested the waters and sent boats racing towards either the Frigates in the force or tankers, only to back off when they were buzzed by the gun-pack toting planes.

It seems that the possibility grow up.

""They have increased the number of submarines … they increased the number of fast attack craft," Vice Admiral Mark Fox told reporters. "Some of the small boats have been outfitted with a large warhead that could be used as a suicide explosive device. The Iranians have a large mine inventory."

"We have watched with interest their development of long range rockets and short, medium and long range ballistic missiles and of course … the development of their nuclear program," Fox, who heads the U.S. Fifth Fleet, said at a briefing on the fleet's base in the Gulf state of Bahrain.

Iran now has 10 small submarines, he said.

Military experts say the U.S. Navy's Fifth Fleet patrolling the Gulf – which always has at least one giant supercarrier accompanied by scores of jets and a fleet of frigates and destroyers – is overwhelmingly more powerful than Iran's navy.

But ever since al Qaeda suicide bombers in a small boat killed 17 sailors on board the destroyer U.S.S. Cole in a port in Yemen in 1996, Washington has been wary of the vulnerability of its huge battleships to bomb attacks by small enemy craft.

Asked whether the U.S. Navy was prepared for an attack or other trouble in the Gulf, Fox said: "We are very vigilant, we have built a wide range of options to give the president and we are ready… What if it happened tonight? We are ready today."

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