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Dale Hurtt30 Jan 2012 9:14 p.m. PST

I researched out (as best I could) the Battle of Eckau and used it as a playtest for the Drums and Shakos Large Battles (DSLB) rules, in order to validate my impressions from previously reading the rules. This is the final review, which is largely very positive.

link

I will be posting a Q&A on my blog that I had with the author (Sergio), both on the Song of Blades and Heroes forum on Yahoo and in email, mostly so I can find it easily later.

Definitely my Napoleonic rules of choice for where each player commands a single Division. As indicated in the forward of the rules, there are a LOT of battles at this scale and from a player viewpoint, buying an army at that level is easy on the wallet.

Feedback always welcome, either on the blog or on this forum.

Thanks,

Dale

Natholeon30 Jan 2012 9:32 p.m. PST

Thanks Dale.
That confirms my impressions on reading the rules. I'm really looking forward to trying them out.

vtsaogames30 Jan 2012 9:55 p.m. PST

Thanks for the report. I've got the rules but am busy with Muskets & Mohawks. I'm interested in how the army scale version plays too.

Frothers Did It And Ran Away31 Jan 2012 12:40 a.m. PST

Many thanks for both your reviews – they give just the right info to educate prospective purchasers (like me!).

Who asked this joker31 Jan 2012 7:25 a.m. PST

Well done sir!

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP31 Jan 2012 2:33 p.m. PST

Thanks for taking the effort to post.

vtsaogames31 Jan 2012 8:19 p.m. PST

Looking at the rules, I notice when generating commanders-in-chief some are designated 3+. Any idea what that is?

Dale Hurtt01 Feb 2012 8:05 a.m. PST

The "+" means that the Leader also gets a Special Rule. It is a note at the start of that section.

Dale

InReserve23 Feb 2012 11:08 p.m. PST

we have played this rule set 1x in 28mm and really like it so far; the mechanism for reacting during the other player's move seems to allow a proper flow of unit interactions on the Napoleonic battlefield; rules are generally clear for a first release and the designer supports them on a Yahoo site; minor quibbles at this time are:

(1) minimum presentation of gaming historical battles; however, i am ok with that, as i get to work up the scenarios myself and have established an algorithm for assigning Special Rules to units based upon national and temporal variations over the era

(2) primary design for tournament play (and being done in 2-3 hours); as written, the victory conditions reflect that; also, all terrain must be in square pieces? easy enough to ignore these when putting together one's own battles

major quibble (a real stinker here)

(3) rules allow artillery to fire through friendly units on the assumption the arty commander always finds an elevated position from which to fire-

this is just incorrect, and mostly never happened according to Wise and Hook (Osprey Men-at-Arms #96, "Artillery Equipment of the Napoleonic Wars")- not sure why this made it into the design, unless it was a means to give arty some protection (they seemed fragile in the first go at the game), but I am thinking I could replace a French Guard 6 pdr fronted by a line of Guard Grenadiers-a-cheval with an M5 Stuart from WWII and get about the same effect on the table (okay, that may be an exaggeration)

but the game is a blast, very fluid; we will make an adjustment on the arty rule (no shooting through friendlies!!) and soldier on (thinking of allowing the arty crew to seek cover in a nearby square if they gain a reaction when charged… we shall see)

LA in CO

spartan6623 Feb 2014 3:31 a.m. PST

Just wondering if these rules are still popular. Just bought the ruleset and looks interesting.
Do they have a yahoo group because I can't find one.

eptingmike23 Feb 2014 3:51 p.m. PST

I think they do have a Yahoo group. May be listed under Ganesha games. There is a blog associated with them as well, iirc.

laser6003 Mar 2014 5:49 a.m. PST

The Yahoo group is the "Song of blades" one, please specify DSLB in the subject if you send a message there.
My blog could also be useful….
drumsandshakos.blogspot.it
Sergio

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