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John the OFM29 Jan 2012 7:58 a.m. PST

After all, Napoleon lost and Wellington won.

Mooseworks829 Jan 2012 8:13 a.m. PST

Wow, I finally cannot agree with the OFM!

Bottom Dollar29 Jan 2012 8:18 a.m. PST

Wellington-ics

The Wellytonic Boards :) Yes, I agree. They probably should. After all what happened in the Peninsula and at Waterloo seems to have defined the military history. Wellytonics.

Redcurrant29 Jan 2012 8:22 a.m. PST

No, Napoleon fought all over Europe. Apart from Waterloo Wellington only fought on the periphery (or should that be the Peninsula)

Steve J

Personal logo Artilleryman Supporting Member of TMP29 Jan 2012 8:24 a.m. PST

Military success though he was, Wellington did not have the impact on the times that Napoleon had. After all, the Emperor started most of what happened and everyone else mostly reacted. The fact that he was ultimately the loser does not mean he was not the epoch maker. Also Wellington's undoubted success was only in one theatre though he did help preside over the final vanquishing of Napoleon. The latter should still give his name to the period.

John Tyson29 Jan 2012 8:29 a.m. PST

;-) What is or who is Wellington? ;-)

T Meier29 Jan 2012 8:29 a.m. PST

Came across a copy of this at an antiques shop yesterday:

link

Very droll puncture of the Napoleonic mythos.

JSchutt29 Jan 2012 8:32 a.m. PST

No… you are close…his name should have been changed to Wellingtonwon then the board would be named appropriately.

Connard Sage29 Jan 2012 8:54 a.m. PST

They should be renamed 'Blucherian'.

That'd satisfy a majority.

NoLongerAMember29 Jan 2012 8:54 a.m. PST

No, they should just be called The Regency Boards and have done with it.

Well the British got to name the Georgian Period, The Victorian era and the Edwardian Age so its only fair.

Connard Sage29 Jan 2012 8:58 a.m. PST

We got the Regency Period too.

link

Timbo W29 Jan 2012 9:05 a.m. PST

'tis undeniably the age of Jane Austen costume drama,

la! Sir, etc

DJCoaltrain29 Jan 2012 9:11 a.m. PST

I'm an American, therefore, I'll vote for Jeffersonian.

It doesn't really matter who was doing what to who, or where. It's all about the good ole USA. So naturally everything in the world should be viewed from the great American perspective. But only since 1776, everything prior to that doesn't matter because there was no USA. firetruck

MajorB29 Jan 2012 9:15 a.m. PST

It's all about the good ole USA. So naturally everything in the world should be viewed from the great American perspective.

You lost the War of 1812. Or perhaps you didn't win it.

DeanMoto29 Jan 2012 9:19 a.m. PST

Well Les See about that…

noimtheotherguy29 Jan 2012 9:20 a.m. PST

Bernadottian. When the dust cleared, he won.

Alan Charlesworth29 Jan 2012 9:23 a.m. PST

Why name an historical period after a type of footwear?

Connard Sage29 Jan 2012 9:26 a.m. PST

Why name a historical period after a type of sweet pastry?

14Bore29 Jan 2012 9:38 a.m. PST

Without Nappy there would be no Welly, just saying

Jovian129 Jan 2012 9:40 a.m. PST

No.

Alan Charlesworth29 Jan 2012 9:41 a.m. PST

No Napoleon won in the end – that's why we have the EU.

huevans01129 Jan 2012 10:05 a.m. PST

Wellington gave his name to a rubber boot. Napoleon gave his name to a brandy. Who would you pick?

noimtheotherguy29 Jan 2012 10:12 a.m. PST

Isn't it interesting that both the Napoleon and Beef Wellington are kind of… badly engineered recipes? You just can't stick a fork in a Napoleon without the cream shooting out the other side. Similar problem with Beef Wellington; the pastry doesn't stay on well enough, and you sort of have to eat the two parts separately.

Now, when you consider that Bernadotte originally wanted to be a baker, well, all the pieces just fit, don't they?

I don't think I'd eat anything named after Blucher.

John the OFM29 Jan 2012 10:15 a.m. PST

What about anything named after Frau Blucher?

21eRegt29 Jan 2012 10:18 a.m. PST

Wellytonic… kinda sounds like a girly drink. "Bartender? Two Wellytonics, no ice."

Non Irn Bru29 Jan 2012 10:22 a.m. PST

John, you've unsettled my horses.

Feet up now29 Jan 2012 10:41 a.m. PST

WeBNaB.
Wellington Boots Napoleon Board.

Personal logo Lluis of Minairons Sponsoring Member of TMP29 Jan 2012 10:42 a.m. PST

The common denominator for all the constellation of conflicts caused by Napoleon is Napoleon himself. No arguments for debating here.

Bottom Dollar29 Jan 2012 10:55 a.m. PST

"…kinda sounds like a girly drink…"

precisely :)


Welly Tonics for the Nappie Whoards.

Seriously, why aren't there more native-French speakers here ? Saying things like "I am French you fools. I have read everything written in French on the Napoleonic Wars. Now shut your ignorant English pieholes !" :)

Le Marechal de Fer29 Jan 2012 11:16 a.m. PST

Son eau de vie n'est pas apte à vous en anglais! Vous serait-il boire de vos bottes laides et tomber dans le vautrer dans la boue de votre climat comme des chiens!

Je plaisante … Je ne vous demande pardon … il faut le brandy…..

Kevin in Albuquerque29 Jan 2012 11:32 a.m. PST

OFM, how could you !!!

I'll think about Wellesley / Wellesleyian? (since most of the utter drivel about the period was written by Englishmen), but a definite NO to a pair of boots.

Pass the cognac, please.

Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP29 Jan 2012 11:34 a.m. PST

Why name it after anybody, why not all it, that period between the american revolution and the american civil war. That way mabye the period could get a mention in american school books.

John the OFM29 Jan 2012 11:42 a.m. PST

That way mabye the period could get a mention in american school books.

How are you an expert on American schoolbooks?
But I must admit it gets hardly a mention at all in Beginning Calculus.

flooglestreet29 Jan 2012 11:43 a.m. PST

Ney

By John 5429 Jan 2012 11:52 a.m. PST

Ney

By John 5429 Jan 2012 11:52 a.m. PST

Mr Wilkes.

Connard Sage29 Jan 2012 11:54 a.m. PST

and thrice Ney

thomalley29 Jan 2012 12:04 p.m. PST

"You lost the War of 1812. Or perhaps you didn't win it."

At Fort McHenry they say that Americans and British usually say "What War", its the Canadians that say "We Won". Something about staying independent from the USA.

wrgmr129 Jan 2012 12:27 p.m. PST

There's John the OFM stirring the pot again….Smile!

noimtheotherguy29 Jan 2012 1:16 p.m. PST

No pots here, sorry. Just Beef Wellington and Napoleons.

Gazzola29 Jan 2012 1:19 p.m. PST

It's called the Napoleonic wars because everyone was scared and jealous of the great man. Scared because they couldn't beat him alone and jealous of the empire he was helping to create for France.

This silly question keeps popping up and will, sadly keep popping up. Best thing is just laugh at the silly suggestion and to carry on enjoying and loving the NAPOLEONIC period, no matter which side you might favour.

Bottom Dollar29 Jan 2012 1:24 p.m. PST

gunfreak wrote: "…that period between the american revolution and the american civil war."


How 'bout the "Thank You America" Board ? No, American Revolution, no, Napoleon.

forwardmarchstudios29 Jan 2012 1:27 p.m. PST

In American schools we refer to it as the Madisonian period, but as no one here cares about history, that doesn't really mean very much…

noimtheotherguy29 Jan 2012 1:29 p.m. PST

Of course, if we were to name it after the real victor of Waterloo: Rothschildonics.

Bottom Dollar29 Jan 2012 2:13 p.m. PST

Of course, we'd then have to change to ACW Board to the "Thank you Great Britain" Board.

goragrad29 Jan 2012 2:49 p.m. PST

Well Bottom, then we would have to rename the American Revolution sub-board the 'Thank You France Board' (boy did that come back to haunt the Aristo's).

Edwulf29 Jan 2012 3:33 p.m. PST

How about "world war 0.9, the Phantom Menace"

In which Europe unites to fight of the shackles of the dark Emperor and Darth Ney. Maybe Lucas was subtlety hinting at the Napoleonic wars all the way through….. Skywalker is Wellington, Kenobi is John Moore, the Prussians are the Ewoks, Napoleon the emperor. It all makes so much sense.

Maxshadow29 Jan 2012 7:20 p.m. PST

Ney Solo? Jar Jar Bernadotte? C3 Davout?

taskforce5829 Jan 2012 8:00 p.m. PST

Unlike Napoleon, Wellington didn't have a sister who likes to bare her bosom once in a while.

Captain Gideon29 Jan 2012 8:45 p.m. PST

What's wrong with Napoleon's Sister exposing herself at times are you a prude?

Captain Gideon

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