John the OFM | 15 Jan 2012 8:09 a.m. PST |
Namng no names, but there are now more than one purveyor of WW2 gaming rules that do this. They take a perfectly good Russian Cyrillic alphabet and try to force it to read as English, using letters that "look like" what they would sound like in English. The result, INMNSHO, is bastardized words that are neither Russian nor English. They are unintelligible gibberish. On a scale of 1-10, how much does faux-Cyrillic useage annoy you? 0. Who cares? 1. It's cute. I LOOOOOOVE it! That's why I bought the game, and I don't even like WW2 gaming! 2. I like it. That's funny. I enjoy the game more because of it. 3. Oh, is that what they're doing? I never noticed. Fun game, and accurate too! 4. Hmmmm. No wonder I can't read it. 5. I wish they wouldn't do that. 6. It bugs me, but not enough to ruin the game. 7. It really annoys me, and makes me wonder what else they got wrong. 8. It ruined the game for me, I got so upset. 9. I would never NEVER!!! buy a product that annoying!!! 10. I am so totally enraged I intend to buy the company and destroy every single thing they have ever made, and bar them for life from anything wargame related!!!!! |
John the OFM | 15 Jan 2012 8:10 a.m. PST |
I am a 6, by the way. |
Mooseworks8 | 15 Jan 2012 8:11 a.m. PST |
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darthfozzywig | 15 Jan 2012 8:13 a.m. PST |
1 – CUTE! That's why I bought the Hello Kitty Tanokvoy Battalion set. Super kawaii! |
Connard Sage | 15 Jan 2012 8:14 a.m. PST |
It doesn't яeally Бother mЭ |
sharps54 | 15 Jan 2012 8:14 a.m. PST |
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brass1 | 15 Jan 2012 8:19 a.m. PST |
Pretty much a 0, since I can't read real Cyrillic gibberish either. LT |
Derek H | 15 Jan 2012 8:23 a.m. PST |
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Yesthatphil | 15 Jan 2012 8:24 a.m. PST |
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Mapleleaf | 15 Jan 2012 8:35 a.m. PST |
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David Miniature Armies | 15 Jan 2012 8:38 a.m. PST |
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John the OFM | 15 Jan 2012 8:43 a.m. PST |
By the way, I am really distraught over the subject and verb number agreement in my opening sentnece above. I don't know why. |
JLA105 | 15 Jan 2012 8:52 a.m. PST |
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Fonthill Hoser | 15 Jan 2012 8:58 a.m. PST |
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enfant perdus | 15 Jan 2012 9:00 a.m. PST |
Usually 5, but sometimes my gut reaction is 11. |
Black Bull | 15 Jan 2012 9:09 a.m. PST |
SEVEN
..oh and SEVEN annoys me aswell |
ZeroTwentythree | 15 Jan 2012 9:12 a.m. PST |
The result, INMNSHO, is bastardized words that are neither Russian nor English. They are unintelligible gibberish. Gibberish like "INMNSHO?" |
MahanMan | 15 Jan 2012 9:16 a.m. PST |
Isn't that the Soviet acronym for "Death To Grammar Fascists"? |
Pizzagrenadier | 15 Jan 2012 9:16 a.m. PST |
11. I have committed the crime of publishing something with said affront against humanity
and I'm ok with that. Sometimes a font is just a font :) |
Angel Barracks | 15 Jan 2012 9:17 a.m. PST |
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Dynaman8789 | 15 Jan 2012 9:27 a.m. PST |
0 If Checkov spoke it so badly that my Russian speaking friend took a while to figure out what he was saying then I don't care about something badly written in a book
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Connard Sage | 15 Jan 2012 9:32 a.m. PST |
I thought Chekov would speak excellent Russian, what with being born in Tagnarog and all. How old's your Russian speaking friend BTW? Old Anton died over a hundred years ago
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Battle Phlox | 15 Jan 2012 9:38 a.m. PST |
6. There are plenty of colorful slogans to use, why use gibberish? |
MajorB | 15 Jan 2012 9:43 a.m. PST |
I don't think I've seen "fake Cyrillic Gibberish" in any of the rules I play. |
SpuriousMilius | 15 Jan 2012 9:48 a.m. PST |
I'm offended by any sort of fake gibberish; I demand authentic (preferably drunken) gibberish for all my gibbering needs! |
Connard Sage | 15 Jan 2012 9:51 a.m. PST |
I demand authentic (preferably drunken) gibberish for all my gibbering needs! I'm yer man for that, to be sure. |
kallman | 15 Jan 2012 10:00 a.m. PST |
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kallman | 15 Jan 2012 10:00 a.m. PST |
Oh and #11 John needs more coffee this morning. |
etotheipi | 15 Jan 2012 10:19 a.m. PST |
7 – If you can't bother to look up a dozen or so words in a language and talk to someone who speaks the language to spice up your work, I would tend to be suspect of the level of effort you put into mechanics and playtesting. |
Inari7 | 15 Jan 2012 10:20 a.m. PST |
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Chris Rance | 15 Jan 2012 10:20 a.m. PST |
0 for the Cyrillic and 5 for the "There are more than one
" subject verb agreement, but since John is distraught about it, I shan't get all worked up about it this time
:) |
skippy0001 | 15 Jan 2012 10:44 a.m. PST |
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LeadLair76 | 15 Jan 2012 11:26 a.m. PST |
0 but for the sake of outrage I will go with an 8. |
David Manley | 15 Jan 2012 11:49 a.m. PST |
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Florida Tory | 15 Jan 2012 12:23 p.m. PST |
Another 6. Fake Greek also annoys me in Ancients rules. Rick |
74EFS Intel | 15 Jan 2012 12:24 p.m. PST |
7, but the Army trained me to be a Russian linguist and my parents taught me to be contrary. |
Waco Joe | 15 Jan 2012 1:20 p.m. PST |
0 Fake Klingon on the other hand
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ochoin deach | 15 Jan 2012 1:51 p.m. PST |
Translation's a tricky business:
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ochoin deach | 15 Jan 2012 1:54 p.m. PST |
This may make sense to some
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ochoin deach | 15 Jan 2012 2:08 p.m. PST |
And finally, the Pussycat Doll's 'Don Cha' "translated" into Simlish: YouTube link |
14th Brooklyn | 15 Jan 2012 2:26 p.m. PST |
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Femeng2 | 15 Jan 2012 2:28 p.m. PST |
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Mister X | 15 Jan 2012 2:39 p.m. PST |
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FingerandToeGlenn | 15 Jan 2012 3:11 p.m. PST |
No worse than the Greek gibberish. Now I'm concerned about that subject/verb agreement. Yes, purveyor is singular so the verb should be is; however, is "more than one" a modifier or is the entire phrase "more than one purveyor" the subject? My head hurts! |
John the OFM | 15 Jan 2012 3:41 p.m. PST |
So does mine! The anguish! |
John the OFM | 15 Jan 2012 3:43 p.m. PST |
I think it should be "There is more than one purveyor
" if I mean to say that there is two such purveyors. If there are three or more such purveyors, then it should be "There more than one purveyors
" But I could be wrong. Still anguished, though. |
Chris Rance | 16 Jan 2012 12:37 a.m. PST |
Just to put you out of your agony John: "There is more than one" is correct, in much the same way that it is "None (not one) of them is
" not "None of them are
". Of course, over on your side of the Atlantic you may do things differently, but I don't think Mr. Webster or any of his illustrious disciples did anything to change this "officially". |
Swampster | 16 Jan 2012 12:59 a.m. PST |
At best, 6. Putting a 'backwards R' in or using what is actually a 'd' to look like an A are two of the most common annoyances to me. There are enough distinctive Russian fonts to give the right effect without the above. For Greek, using a sigma to stand in for 'E' is irritating to me as well. |
NigelM | 16 Jan 2012 3:13 a.m. PST |
No it's only when the English is genuine gibberish that it bothers me. (Authors for whom English is not their native language get excused but they're rarely the worst offenders anyway) |
Patrick Sexton | 16 Jan 2012 8:40 a.m. PST |
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