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Don Sebastian04 Jan 2012 6:23 a.m. PST

Reading about them at wikipedia, I found out that they were restored in 1722. Is their uniforms at this date known? Also, after that date, they were reformed as a foot company. Does anyone knows their uniform in 1756 and 1765?

Don Sebastian06 Jan 2012 6:14 a.m. PST

No clues?

Don Sebastian08 Jan 2012 4:03 p.m. PST

Does anyone knows where I could find that information?

Martinsson09 Jan 2012 6:31 a.m. PST

I searched the collections of the Swedish Army museum but only found a few objects belonging to the Livdrabant corps.

A cuirass worn c. 1800 by one of the four commanders (kaptenlöjtnant):

link

A cartridge box from the reign of Fredrik I (1720-1751):

link

Another cartridge box from the 18th century:

link

Various weapons:

link

It seems like all information on wikipedia about the Livdrabant corps for this time period originate from this hundred year old encyklopedia:

runeberg.org/nfbf/0426.html

Musketier on the March09 Jan 2012 6:39 a.m. PST

The helmet fittings in your third link look very impressive. A reply to Russia's Chevaliers-Garde perhaps?

Don Sebastian09 Jan 2012 8:32 a.m. PST

Thanks man! The armor is specially awesome!

No clues on their uniform?

spontoon09 Jan 2012 3:43 p.m. PST

Probably blue? Some of those Livdrabanten items look post-Napoleonic, rather than 1700's. In some languages "18 Century" comes out as "1800's". For example, Italian, where 1800's is ottocento and 1700's is settecento.

Martinsson10 Jan 2012 1:39 p.m. PST

There are no translation errors in the dates I gave in my previous post. But the results from my search are not filtered for any time period and at least one of them are indeed post-Napoleonic. The description to one of the helmet fittings indirectly dates it to the time period 1818-1821. The standard is also post-Napoleonic but apart from the recycled pole it did not belong to the Livdrabants.

The cuirass is in the text described as both from c. 1800 and from early 19th century. The two matching helmet fittings are dated to c. 1800 respectively to the reign of Karl XIV Johan. Since Karl XIV Johan became king 1818 and the Livdrabant corps was dissolved 1821 this gives a very limited time frame for that helmet fitting (assuming the dating is correct which is not always the case).

spontoon18 Jan 2012 2:28 p.m. PST

However, the request was for information regarding the period 1756 and 1765.

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