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Personal logo Inari7 Supporting Member of TMP03 Jan 2012 12:50 p.m. PST

Would you bring a knife to a gunfight….


Maybe in a telephone booth?

John the OFM03 Jan 2012 12:51 p.m. PST

I always bring a chainsaw to a gunfight in a telephne booth.

Personal logo Saber6 Supporting Member of TMP Fezian03 Jan 2012 12:57 p.m. PST

Only if the stand-off distance was measured in miles

elsyrsyn03 Jan 2012 1:06 p.m. PST

To a knife-fight, I'd bring track shoes. To a gun-fight in a telephone booth, I'd bring a camera and a connection to YouTube.

Doug

CPT Jake03 Jan 2012 1:12 p.m. PST

Nope. I suspect even if I cut the dude with the gun, he would have plenty of time to pull the trigger before he bled out.

Todosi03 Jan 2012 1:17 p.m. PST

Charge a gunfight, run from a knife fight.

mad monkey 103 Jan 2012 1:31 p.m. PST

Yep. Back up for the gun I'd also bring.

Omemin03 Jan 2012 1:48 p.m. PST

I prefer swords at 20 paces. Or topmauls at the main yardarm.

skippy000103 Jan 2012 1:51 p.m. PST

If it was a ballistic knife:)

CmdrKiley03 Jan 2012 2:02 p.m. PST

Only if I get Hidden Deployment and Auto Initiative Win.

Mako1103 Jan 2012 2:12 p.m. PST

Or a ballistic, poison tipped one…..

richarDISNEY03 Jan 2012 2:18 p.m. PST

Better than nothing, I guess…
beer

John D Salt03 Jan 2012 2:27 p.m. PST

Certainly I can imagine bringing a knife to a gunfight. After all, I'll need something to inscribe the notches on the butt of my GPMG when it's over.

All the best,

John.

wrgmr103 Jan 2012 2:39 p.m. PST

FNC1A1 with a knife on the end.

vojvoda03 Jan 2012 2:49 p.m. PST

I carry a Spyderco Mariner one of the few left handed knifes they carry. At close ranges where most gun fights are under 10 yards you have a chance.
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James Mattes

Sergeant Paper03 Jan 2012 3:07 p.m. PST

Considering the FBI gunshot stats, hell yes. But I'd rather sit off and drop them with a long gun.

Stephens12303 Jan 2012 5:12 p.m. PST

Check this out:

YouTube link

CPT Jake03 Jan 2012 6:04 p.m. PST

Looks cool in a movie. In real life, IF you hit with the knife, it would not do enough damage to prevent the other guy from blowing you away way before he bled out.

GoGators03 Jan 2012 6:17 p.m. PST

Good way to die. See Indiana Jones. You bring a gun to a knife fight. You bring a Bradley to a gun fight. Fighting fair is for losers. (and a bright shiny ring to a fight with the SO ;))

Augustus03 Jan 2012 8:18 p.m. PST

Depends how good you are with the knife.

I've seen guys who couldn't hit the broadside of the barn at 5 paces.

I've also see a few so good with a knife that they'd pick off a bird on fence or approach so quiet they could have opened your throat faster than you could blink. You wouldn't have had a chance.

Guns or knives are just tools. It is a tool box. All that matters in the use of the tools is the person using it.

Ron W DuBray03 Jan 2012 9:15 p.m. PST

if I can have a SWAT shield in the other hand and the fight is in a house.

vojvoda03 Jan 2012 9:20 p.m. PST

Augustus 03 Jan 2012 7:18 p.m. PST wrote:
….Guns or knives are just tools. It is a tool box. All that matters in the use of the tools is the person using it.

Dead on, Jim Tirey taught me more about knife fighting than most ever know. It is just one tool in the tool box but a deadly one.
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James Mattes

vojvoda03 Jan 2012 9:32 p.m. PST

CPT Jake 03 Jan 2012 5:04 p.m. PST wrote:
Looks cool in a movie. In real life, IF you hit with the knife, it would not do enough damage to prevent the other guy from blowing you away way before he bled out.

Depends on where you hit them. A throat slash will put someone down in a second.
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James Mattes

gounour03 Jan 2012 11:42 p.m. PST

allways bring heavy air support (pair of B-52 or so) to a gunfight. an knife may comes handy too

ok with Gogators, fair fight is for Elves and loosers

Gounour, an easy win is a win nevertheless

SECURITY MINISTER CRITTER03 Jan 2012 11:54 p.m. PST

Like wrgmr1 said, bayonets.

goragrad04 Jan 2012 12:45 a.m. PST

I have read that a bayonet helps the barrel harmonics on the PSL 54c improving accuracy, so of course I'd bring one.

CPT Jake04 Jan 2012 3:20 a.m. PST

@ Vojvoda: Did you watch the video clip? I stand by my statement.

vojvoda04 Jan 2012 7:58 a.m. PST

Jake,
I got bayonet in the head in Panama just above the left ear. Had he gone lower he should have killed me. Most gun fights are at under 10 yards. Enough distance to close with the enemy to kill him. Knife fights are not nice. You go to the jugular and do not hold back.
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James Mattes

CPT Jake04 Jan 2012 8:36 a.m. PST

Again, watch the video clip in the post I replied to.

By the way, I've been cut a couple times too.

vojvoda04 Jan 2012 12:12 p.m. PST

I think it comes down to professional adversaries, most do not commit 100%. Someone with a handgun and the right mind set can do a lot of damage. Take for example the Miami shoot out in 1986. Most do not go all the way, that makes the difference.

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James Mattes

Grand Duke Natokina04 Jan 2012 1:32 p.m. PST

I myself have always been a knife person. Don't really know why. But I am also one for a pair of Schofields and a 97 pump for bad situations.

Omemin04 Jan 2012 2:11 p.m. PST

If you're facing somebody like Levi Richardson, a knife will do.

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brass104 Jan 2012 8:21 p.m. PST

I don't carry a gun(in a city where most of the felons do) but I always carry a knife. I make a point of not getting involved in gunfights.

LT

Oddball05 Jan 2012 9:44 a.m. PST

Danger zone for a person with a holstered pistol facing a person with a knife in their hands is 18 feet. The person with the knife can cover that distance and attack the other person before they can draw their weapon.

I didn't believe it until I went throught the training.

billthecat05 Jan 2012 12:13 p.m. PST

How about a lightsaber that can magically parry all projectile attacks? Or this only good for blaster bolts that travel at about 10mph…

But seriously, I think the point of contention in the above responses is the need to define 'gunfight'…. that having been said, there is a reason why most militaries switched from knives to guns a few years back…

vojvoda05 Jan 2012 2:22 p.m. PST

billthecat 05 Jan 2012 11:13 a.m. PST wrote:
..But seriously, I think the point of contention in the above responses is the need to define 'gunfight'…. that having been said, there is a reason why most militaries switched from knives to guns a few years back…

Really the US Army still has combatives training it is part of the basic SF course. Most go on to advanced training. It is not a lost art but skill set that is still in use.
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James Mattes

Scorpio05 Jan 2012 2:25 p.m. PST

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Can I bring a gun that shoots knives?

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