1968billsfan | 28 Dec 2011 7:12 p.m. PST |
By Pascal Cazottes, FINS link "
We are the 15 th of November 1846. An old professor, respected by everyone, dies in Rowan County, North Carolina. Lying on his death bed, he finds the strength to say a few words to his friends who surround him: "I will not die with a lie on the lips. I am Marshal Ney of France". One can imagine the trouble, if not the amazement, which also immediately sweeps over the audience. A dying man has just admitted that he is not the one that he has always claimed to be. But what did he claim exactly? And what do we really know about him? In fact, his origins are as mysterious as his last words. Peter Stuart Ney seems to have appeared in the United States as if by magic. One day in 1819, a fifty year old man presents himself in the small village of Cheraw (*), in South Carolina
.." |
John the OFM | 28 Dec 2011 8:22 p.m. PST |
And I am Marie of Rumania. |
cavcrazy | 28 Dec 2011 8:26 p.m. PST |
"I am the great and powerful Oz!" |
21eRegt | 28 Dec 2011 8:29 p.m. PST |
I'm Spartacus! much as I would like to believe Ney escaped the firing squad) |
DeanMoto | 28 Dec 2011 8:34 p.m. PST |
"An atom, floating on an atmosphere of chance." |
The G Dog | 28 Dec 2011 8:37 p.m. PST |
Yeah. And the Romanov's throne is MINE! |
greatwhitezulu | 28 Dec 2011 8:51 p.m. PST |
|
Whatisitgood4atwork | 28 Dec 2011 9:54 p.m. PST |
|
Pijlie | 28 Dec 2011 10:17 p.m. PST |
|
Mapleleaf | 28 Dec 2011 10:56 p.m. PST |
It is nice to think that it is possible but unfortunately that is all we can do unless some new evidence comes up. |
Maxshadow | 29 Dec 2011 12:38 a.m. PST |
Wow what a day. We found Neys real fate and a missing member of the Romanian Royal dynasty! TMP rocks! Max |
trailape | 29 Dec 2011 12:48 a.m. PST |
Yes. If America is a small town in France where Firing squads take their holidays,
. Otherwise, No. |
12345678 | 29 Dec 2011 3:33 a.m. PST |
Publishing such utter rubbish makes the INS a laughing stock. |
SJDonovan | 29 Dec 2011 3:49 a.m. PST |
I am Marshal Ney. And so is my wife. |
Sane Max | 29 Dec 2011 4:21 a.m. PST |
Ney, Ney, and Thrice Ney!
Pat |
Timbo W | 29 Dec 2011 4:31 a.m. PST |
I bet you could hear a pin drop in his French classes. |
XV Brigada | 29 Dec 2011 5:31 a.m. PST |
@CJA, The INS has been a laughing stock for a long time. |
Femeng2 | 29 Dec 2011 5:47 a.m. PST |
Sounds like all those whiom claimed to be Billy the Kid or Jesse James. Old men with Alzemheisers |
Sane Max | 29 Dec 2011 5:49 a.m. PST |
Alzemheisers That's the one that makes you forget how to spell. Pat |
12345678 | 29 Dec 2011 6:38 a.m. PST |
|
Pan Marek | 29 Dec 2011 8:06 a.m. PST |
Hold on now. Weren't Alzemheisers a type of irregular cavalry in the 30 years war? |
Connard Sage | 29 Dec 2011 9:47 a.m. PST |
Bloody hell. Is it that time of year already?
|
Pan Marek | 29 Dec 2011 10:39 a.m. PST |
From the Journals of the Comte d'Frommage: "
and then the Alzemheisers cut off our baggage train, forcing me to rely on the same pair of hose for a week." |
Supercilius Maximus | 29 Dec 2011 12:14 p.m. PST |
Marshal Ney, Marshal Ney, Riding through the glen; Marshal Ney, Marshal Ney - With his cavalrymen. Betrayed Bonaparte, Betrayed Louis XVIII, Marshal Ney! Marshal Ney! Marshal Ney! |
SJDonovan | 29 Dec 2011 12:27 p.m. PST |
But in fairness to him he never betrayed anyone who wasn't really asking for it. |
Garryowen | 29 Dec 2011 12:28 p.m. PST |
How do I know. However, many years ago I read a book I think was called The Dual Life of Marshal Ney. Allegedly handwriting experts (it may have claimed they were from the FBI, but I may be confusing that with the Reno and Benteen promotion petition fraud following the LBH)claimed the handwriting samples by the true Marshal Ney and this Peter Stuart were written by the same person. Maybe the whole book was fiction, but it was fun to read. Tom |
Spreewaldgurken | 29 Dec 2011 12:43 p.m. PST |
All right then, well, I am in fact Mustafa Kemal. And Kara Mustafa Pasha. And all three of the Three Mustafas Three. Forward in all directions! (I presented myself, at age 46, to a small New Jersey town, and was immediately run over by an aggressive plumbing contractor making an illegal turn into a Dunkin Donuts.) |
11th ACR | 29 Dec 2011 1:15 p.m. PST |
This book tells the story. Its not a bad read. link |
SJDonovan | 29 Dec 2011 1:18 p.m. PST |
I know you shouldn't judge a book by the cover; but this time I'm tempted to make an exception:
|
Connard Sage | 29 Dec 2011 2:38 p.m. PST |
I'm Spartacus! Hang on, I may have the wrong thread. |
Bent Bayonet | 29 Dec 2011 3:54 p.m. PST |
I would imagine it a most unlikely case that Ney fled death to take up a life of obscurity in a backwater town in America. Running or escaping I think an unlikely trait in a man like Ney. That said, the story is testiment to the hope people have for a courageous foe or friend to escape death and live out his life. I hope Ney did escape and the story is true. But I believe Ney was shot dead by a firing squad. Maybe it was Murat who escaped the firing squad and took the name Peter Ney. Now that's plausable
! |
1968billsfan | 29 Dec 2011 4:17 p.m. PST |
I wonder if its time for me to try to sell some of my expensive plaid paint for doing units of Highland infantry? |
charared | 29 Dec 2011 4:29 p.m. PST |
|
Timbo W | 29 Dec 2011 6:39 p.m. PST |
1968billsfan, do you have the tartan paint in stock as well as plaid? I remember it being advertised in Miniature Wargames some time ago, but nobody seems to carry it at the shows. :-) |
John the OFM | 29 Dec 2011 8:15 p.m. PST |
Is this Tartan Dip, or Tartan Spray? |
JeffsaysHi | 30 Dec 2011 4:04 a.m. PST |
Anyone know if the plaid works easy with inkwash? I'd normally highlight but maybe a problem here if I get the brush offset on the second layer. Someone said Ney wrote the answer on his deathbed and it is in the Smithsonian archives under Stuart nee Ney, but that could be horse sh.t . |
1968billsfan | 30 Dec 2011 5:07 a.m. PST |
The tartan paint is expensive and you have to pay in cash, up front. It comes in bottles for 28mm and 15mm figures. The 6mm figure paint is very expensive and only comes in the government tartan pattern. |
huevans011 | 30 Dec 2011 6:50 a.m. PST |
IMO, not only did Marshall Ney escape death in France by firing squad, but he is posting on this very thread in this very forum. I have proof which will support this shocking claim, but I cannot yet reveal it. |
uruk hai | 30 Dec 2011 2:51 p.m. PST |
Who was the poor shot in 1815? |
12345678 | 30 Dec 2011 3:47 p.m. PST |
Uruk, one of my ancestors was shot in 1815, but I suspect that he is not the one that you are referring to:). He got his at Wavre but survived. |
12345678 | 30 Dec 2011 3:54 p.m. PST |
Has anyone considered the idea that Marshal Ney may never have actually existed and that the so-called execution was a means of covering up this fact? I am going to write an article about it for the INS and will follow up with another explaining that Napoleon was actually a myth created by the Rothschilds who saw the opportunity to make money by funding a non-existent war in Europe. Of course, to do this they had to convince everyone that there actually was a war, which they did through their super lizard-men mind control powers. Now, where did I put my tinfoil hat? |
Trajanus | 01 Jan 2012 6:04 a.m. PST |
I'm Spartacus! And so is my wife! |
Trajanus | 01 Jan 2012 6:13 a.m. PST |
This book tells the story. Its not a bad read OMG! Not the Bloody Masons again! Anyhow, "The Emperors New Clothes" (2001 Movie) at least had a plot line that you might want to believe in but how the hell would you persuade someone to impersonate you in front of a firing squad? Don't tell me, let me guess. Someone with a terminal illness who just happened to be Ney's double and a Mason took one (or six) for the team! Am I close? Do I care? |
JD Lee | 17 Nov 2015 9:45 a.m. PST |
I am going to contact America Unearthed and see if Scott will investigate. |
14Bore | 17 Nov 2015 5:46 p.m. PST |
A couple of years back, probably when this thread started I read a article and was at least intrigued by the possibility. |
John Miller | 17 Nov 2015 6:29 p.m. PST |
From what I have read of the guy, I like him, (as well as anyone can know that from a distance of 200 years?). I believe he was a better man than those who executed him. To quote a line from some old movie, (I can't remember which), "I'd love to believe it", but I'm afraid it aint so. Just an opinion. Thanks, John Miller |
christot | 18 Nov 2015 2:13 p.m. PST |
Men die from firing squads, princesses die in road accidents, men land on the moon, and lone losers shoot presidents…some folk just can't accept the mundane. I was reading in this very mornings Independent newspaper a review of a book about the history of conspiracy theories, from a sociological point of view, rather than arguing about specific conspiracy theories. Sounds like an interesting read |