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Chortle Fezian10 Dec 2011 10:15 p.m. PST

I bought 63 Langton Galleys, with 7 accessories packs, at the bring and buy of the Reading show in November. I'm not up to (ramming) speed on Ancients Naval gaming. Can someone help me to figure out how the figures should be divided up into fleets? The guy who bought them presumably had a plan. Perhaps the collective can work out a particular battle he was planning to re-fight.

This is what I have.

Name/Number/Other info/Quantity I have e.g. x2 two pcs

Deceres/10/Cataphract/x4
Octeres/8?/x4
Hepteres( or Septireme)/7/Cataphract (large)/x2
Hexeres/6/Cataphract/x2
Quadrireme/4?/x10
Cartheginian Quinquereme/5/x4
Trireme/3/x7
Liburnian/2/x8

Roman Quinquereme/5/x14
Roman Quinquereme/5/No sail/x8

Total 63 ships. Presumably this is a Roman vs X bash. I understand that captured ships were used both sides. Not sure if I want to complicate this any more as the project would stagnate if I couldn't keep up momentum.

The text you see above came off the packets (apart from the quantities). There are also seven accessory packs which contain
- mast heads (lots)
- a little boat
- 5 different sails
- deck stuff like castles, a winch, roman type
heavy crossbow

French Wargame Holidays11 Dec 2011 2:11 p.m. PST

well it could be any navy of the period, it is a good mix for republican period though


have a look here for a start
link

Chortle Fezian11 Dec 2011 7:01 p.m. PST

Thanks for throwing me a bone. I badly need help on this one!

macedon12 Dec 2011 3:46 a.m. PST

If Romans don't have corvus and with all the large vessels it probably wasn't mean for Punic Wars. Could be Actium or Rome vs later Hellenistic Kingdoms.Seems to have been a matter of prestige for Successor Kingdoms to use large ships and Antony accessed the fleets of the Eastern Kingdoms in the civil war.

All fleets would have used Tiremes and Liburnians as scouts auxilaries etc. So divide those between both sides.

I personally like to use sails just to add marking to diffentiate squadrons etc but it would be more accurate to use just masts.

Just realised that the winch you mentioned could be a corvus.Have you many?

Chortle Fezian12 Dec 2011 5:13 a.m. PST

Perhaps not a winch. Actually it is seven packs of accessories each one with:
Miscellaneous (pack) – Each contains an assortment of sails, sterns, masts, catapult etc for customising models.

How well does the ships list fit Actium? Reading Rod Langton's ship list, I seem to remember that all these ships are OK for that battle. Also, this is the battle which launched a thousand ancient naval interests – via the film Anthony and Cleopatra.

BTW, I have zero idea why the original owner bought the ships he did. So I don't know that all of a certain ship went to one side. This could be a Roman on Roman bash, like Actium.

Reading the Wiki

link

"The majority of Mark Antony's warships were quinqueremes, huge galleys with massive rams, that could weigh up to three hundred tons."

and

"Octavian's fleet was largely made up of smaller, fully manned Liburnian vessels"

Big Red Supporting Member of TMP12 Dec 2011 12:16 p.m. PST

Mr. Roach does a great job. His are 1/600 scale but the paint schemes should be of some help.

link

Chortle Fezian13 Dec 2011 8:42 a.m. PST

Looks good. Now, if I could just figure out how to divide my ships up into fleets..

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