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Cacique Caribe Inactive Member21 Oct 2011 10:01 a.m. PST

A Map from The Thing (1982). I think it points to the location of the Norwegian camp:

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B Map of Nazi Neuschwabenland:

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QUESTIONS:

1) Are these locations anywhere close to one another?
2) Could this form the basis for a cool gaming scenario?

Thanks,

Dan
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kyoteblue Inactive Member21 Oct 2011 10:04 a.m. PST

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Cacique Caribe Inactive Member21 Oct 2011 10:04 a.m. PST

By the way, here's a map of modern claims to Antarctica:

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And another map of Neuschwabenland (New Swabia):

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The crashed ship:

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Dan

chaos0xomega Inactive Member21 Oct 2011 10:39 a.m. PST

Its the right general area, but I think the spaceship crash site is beyond the area claimed as part of Neuschwabenland.

Cacique Caribe Inactive Member21 Oct 2011 11:06 a.m. PST

Ooops. Let's try that New Swabia map again:

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I wish this map from The Thing (1982) had additional reference points:

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Dan

Personal logo Saber6 Supporting Member of TMP Fezian21 Oct 2011 1:41 p.m. PST

They just "claimed" to be Norwegian

Mako11 Inactive Member21 Oct 2011 2:22 p.m. PST

More importantly, is "The Thing" an Alien Facehugger?

Looks like it in the preview to me…..

Alex Reed Inactive Member21 Oct 2011 4:11 p.m. PST

No… It's definitely NOT an Alien Facehugger.

It's still pretty frikkin' ugly though.

Sargonarhes21 Oct 2011 4:48 p.m. PST

It's a doppelganger of sorts, it absorbs and copies the original host. It can hug faces while consuming a new host. Plus a lot of other gruesome things while it feeds and copies.

Cacique Caribe Inactive Member21 Oct 2011 7:25 p.m. PST

At 5:07 of Part 2, the Norwegian station is about to be visited:

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At 4:34 of Part 4, they watch the Norwegian tapes and head out to the spaceship:

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From what I can see in that second clip (at 5:36), the site he points to is in fact the crash site:

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Dan

AVAMANGO Inactive Member21 Oct 2011 11:28 p.m. PST

If you havn't seen the film go rent or buy it, its still a great watch even after all these years, it is a pretty dated but its still a cult classic.

Cacique Caribe Inactive Member22 Oct 2011 5:56 p.m. PST

Guys,

Can you imagine a "Nazis VS The Thing" scenario?

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Dan
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kyoteblue Inactive Member22 Oct 2011 6:17 p.m. PST

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Cacique Caribe Inactive Member22 Oct 2011 8:06 p.m. PST

One more map:

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One more pic:

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Dan

Cacique Caribe Inactive Member24 Oct 2011 12:57 p.m. PST

QUESTION:

Can anyone here make out what latitude and longitude is the area the fella is pointing to here?

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Thanks,

Dan

Bumbydad09 May 2012 9:22 a.m. PST

This is incredibly tardy to the party I realize, but a couple years ago I did a facelift for the author of Raum Krieg, a game involving Nazi Flying Saucers. I appended various "artist conceptions", as well as supposedly actual photos, of Nazi space vehicles. The rules are on Miniaturewargaming.com

Cacique Caribe Inactive Member09 May 2012 9:35 a.m. PST

Hi BumbyDad! It's. Ever too late. The party's always on!

Is this the one you mean?

"Neuschwabenland The Lost Colony"?

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Here's some really weird stuff:

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Dan

Bumbydad10 May 2012 7:33 a.m. PST

No, here's the link:

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I clicked on it just to make sure it's OK, and I couldn't get a legible copy from "scribd", whatever that is. If you can't get one either, let me know and I'll shoot you a copy. The rules originally were on YouTube, since taken down. The author had a section devoted to how he made his UFOs--basically out of household junk and stuff he got at a dollar store. Pretty neat, actually.

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Cacique Caribe Inactive Member10 May 2012 3:00 p.m. PST

Guys, I might now finally have my answer. It hinges on two points, Russian station Novolazarevskaya and Queen Maud Land.

1) Russian station Novolazarevskaya
It appears on a couple of maps above. One is a map showing Norwegian claims and the other is one of the German Neuschwabenland maps. If the area pointed to in the film is near Novolazarevskaya, then we are talking about a point of reference that seems to indicate the same territory.

2) Queen Maud Land
According to Wikipedia …
"Norwegian Hjalmar Riiser-Larsen was the first person to set foot in the territory in 1930. On 14 January 1939, the territory was claimed by Norway. From 1939 until 1945, Germany claimed New Swabia,[7] which consisted of part of Queen Maud Land."

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QUESTIONS (Just for the sake of a gaming scenario)-

A) What if (again, just for the sake of a gaming scenario, of course) some high level officials in the Norwegian and German governments are Nazi sympathizers, and have been funding, supplying and covering up the existence of an Antarctic Nazi base (now populated by Nazi descendants of now-dead Nazi war criminals)?

B) And what if they have covered up the location of the base that even today's German government is unaware it is still there and in operation (except for the few high officials in the German government who are Nazi sympathizers)?

C) If today's Norwegian and German governments were find out about the clandestine Neo-Nazi faction within their governments (not the Skin Heads, but an actual next generation Reich organization) and of the existence of the base, how would they react?

D) Would the US (and other allied nations) even try to eradicate the base and the Germano-Norwegian Neo-Nazi force, or force it's shutdown, or would they try to establish diplomatic relations and acknowledge the right for that base to exist as a sovereign state (perhaps in exchange for some new technology the base might have developed from the crashed Alien ship)? And would they keep the operations secret to avoid international embarrasment?

E) If the Nazi base was discovered and war followed, what secret weapons (developed from the crashed Alien ship) would a German-Norwegian Nazi force there use against any allies that may try to take it down? Would they face an all-out Allied attack or only a few small covert teams sent to talke them out?

F) Would Eureka's 15mm SciFi Germans do well playing the part of the Nazi force?

Dan

Personal logo Murphy Sponsoring Member of TMP Inactive Member11 May 2012 1:12 p.m. PST

Would the US (and other allied nations) even try to eradicate the base and the Germano-Norwegian Neo-Nazi force, or force it's shutdown, or would they try to establish diplomatic relations and acknowledge the right for that base to exist as a sovereign state (perhaps in exchange for some new technology the base might have developed from the crashed Alien ship)? And would they keep the operations secret to avoid international embarrasment?

Read about the "REAL" reasons and the mystery surrounding "Operation High Jump" in 1947….

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kyoteblue Inactive Member11 May 2012 3:59 p.m. PST

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kyoteblue Inactive Member11 May 2012 7:40 p.m. PST

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kyoteblue Inactive Member12 May 2012 2:09 p.m. PST

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Cacique Caribe Inactive Member12 May 2012 2:13 p.m. PST

LOL.

Dan

kyoteblue Inactive Member12 May 2012 2:36 p.m. PST

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Cacique Caribe Inactive Member12 May 2012 9:00 p.m. PST

More maps found:

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Dan

deflatermouse13 May 2012 2:25 a.m. PST
CAPTAIN BEEFHEART13 May 2012 3:59 a.m. PST

I think that Carpenter had an assistant get a map of Antarctica and had them circle something that an actor could point to.

Maxshadow13 May 2012 8:41 p.m. PST

Carpenter movies. They just keep giving.

Cacique Caribe Inactive Member14 May 2012 6:10 a.m. PST

Cap'n: "I think that Carpenter had an assistant get a map of Antarctica and had them circle something that an actor could point to."

You know, before I made the final connection and realized they were indeed pointing to Neuschwabenland, I would have agreed with you. It's obvious now that someone knew where Norway's territorial claim was, and that person placed markers on the map within that territory.

And since Nazi Neuschwabenland lies within a large portion of the Norwegian claim, there was a really good chance that the markers would also fall within the Nazi claim.

Dan

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