"Did "The Thing" Spaceship Crash In Nazi Newschwabenland?" Topic

A – Map from The Thing (1982). I think it points to the location of the Norwegian camp:

B – Map of Nazi Neuschwabenland:

QUESTIONS:

1) Are these locations anywhere close to one another?
2) Could this form the basis for a cool gaming scenario?

Thanks,

Dan
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By the way, here's a map of modern claims to Antarctica:

And another map of Neuschwabenland (New Swabia):

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The crashed ship:

Dan

Its the right general area, but I think the spaceship crash site is beyond the area claimed as part of Neuschwabenland.

Ooops. Let's try that New Swabia map again:

I wish this map from The Thing (1982) had additional reference points:

Dan

They just "claimed" to be Norwegian

More importantly, is "The Thing" an Alien Facehugger?

Looks like it in the preview to me…..

No… It's definitely NOT an Alien Facehugger.

It's still pretty frikkin' ugly though.

It's a doppelganger of sorts, it absorbs and copies the original host. It can hug faces while consuming a new host. Plus a lot of other gruesome things while it feeds and copies.

At 5:07 of Part 2, the Norwegian station is about to be visited:

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At 4:34 of Part 4, they watch the Norwegian tapes and head out to the spaceship:

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From what I can see in that second clip (at 5:36), the site he points to is in fact the crash site:

Dan

If you havn't seen the film go rent or buy it, its still a great watch even after all these years, it is a pretty dated but its still a cult classic.

Guys,

Can you imagine a "Nazis VS The Thing" scenario?

Dan
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One more map:

One more pic:

Dan

QUESTION:

Can anyone here make out what latitude and longitude is the area the fella is pointing to here?

Thanks,

Dan

This is incredibly tardy to the party I realize, but a couple years ago I did a facelift for the author of Raum Krieg, a game involving Nazi Flying Saucers. I appended various "artist conceptions", as well as supposedly actual photos, of Nazi space vehicles. The rules are on Miniaturewargaming.com

Hi BumbyDad! It's. Ever too late. The party's always on!

Is this the one you mean?

"Neuschwabenland The Lost Colony"?

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Here's some really weird stuff:

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Dan

No, here's the link:

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I clicked on it just to make sure it's OK, and I couldn't get a legible copy from "scribd", whatever that is. If you can't get one either, let me know and I'll shoot you a copy. The rules originally were on YouTube, since taken down. The author had a section devoted to how he made his UFOs--basically out of household junk and stuff he got at a dollar store. Pretty neat, actually.

Guys, I might now finally have my answer. It hinges on two points, Russian station Novolazarevskaya and Queen Maud Land.

1) Russian station Novolazarevskaya
It appears on a couple of maps above. One is a map showing Norwegian claims and the other is one of the German Neuschwabenland maps. If the area pointed to in the film is near Novolazarevskaya, then we are talking about a point of reference that seems to indicate the same territory.

2) Queen Maud Land
According to Wikipedia …
"Norwegian Hjalmar Riiser-Larsen was the first person to set foot in the territory in 1930. On 14 January 1939, the territory was claimed by Norway. From 1939 until 1945, Germany claimed New Swabia,[7] which consisted of part of Queen Maud Land."

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QUESTIONS (Just for the sake of a gaming scenario)-

A) What if (again, just for the sake of a gaming scenario, of course) some high level officials in the Norwegian and German governments are Nazi sympathizers, and have been funding, supplying and covering up the existence of an Antarctic Nazi base (now populated by Nazi descendants of now-dead Nazi war criminals)?

B) And what if they have covered up the location of the base that even today's German government is unaware it is still there and in operation (except for the few high officials in the German government who are Nazi sympathizers)?

C) If today's Norwegian and German governments were find out about the clandestine Neo-Nazi faction within their governments (not the Skin Heads, but an actual next generation Reich organization) and of the existence of the base, how would they react?

D) Would the US (and other allied nations) even try to eradicate the base and the Germano-Norwegian Neo-Nazi force, or force it's shutdown, or would they try to establish diplomatic relations and acknowledge the right for that base to exist as a sovereign state (perhaps in exchange for some new technology the base might have developed from the crashed Alien ship)? And would they keep the operations secret to avoid international embarrasment?

E) If the Nazi base was discovered and war followed, what secret weapons (developed from the crashed Alien ship) would a German-Norwegian Nazi force there use against any allies that may try to take it down? Would they face an all-out Allied attack or only a few small covert teams sent to talke them out?

F) Would Eureka's 15mm SciFi Germans do well playing the part of the Nazi force?

Dan

Would the US (and other allied nations) even try to eradicate the base and the Germano-Norwegian Neo-Nazi force, or force it's shutdown, or would they try to establish diplomatic relations and acknowledge the right for that base to exist as a sovereign state (perhaps in exchange for some new technology the base might have developed from the crashed Alien ship)? And would they keep the operations secret to avoid international embarrasment?

Read about the "REAL" reasons and the mystery surrounding "Operation High Jump" in 1947….

LOL.

Dan

More maps found:

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Dan

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I think that Carpenter had an assistant get a map of Antarctica and had them circle something that an actor could point to.

Carpenter movies. They just keep giving.

Cap'n: "I think that Carpenter had an assistant get a map of Antarctica and had them circle something that an actor could point to."

You know, before I made the final connection and realized they were indeed pointing to Neuschwabenland, I would have agreed with you. It's obvious now that someone knew where Norway's territorial claim was, and that person placed markers on the map within that territory.

And since Nazi Neuschwabenland lies within a large portion of the Norwegian claim, there was a really good chance that the markers would also fall within the Nazi claim.

Dan