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11th ACR02 Oct 2011 12:55 p.m. PST

This was sent to me by a fellow Wargamer:

Thought you would like to read this.
This is from my nexus yahoo group wings of war (WWI aircraft.)
The same people (in Italy) who came out with the planes are going to come out with 1:1200 PAINTED ships of the Napoleonic period.
Also might cover an earlier period, from 1650. Interesting? Can't wait till next Summer.
Wonder what the price will be?
The planes are $12.00 USD to &16.00 each and are now hard to find.
Think they will be 4 groups of 3?
Lots to wonder about. And PAINTED!!!!

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Sails of Glory

Sails of Glory will recreate the pitch clashes between ships in the age of sail (1650 – 1815). Just like Wings of Glory, a tactical game where they will be deployed predipinte miniatures of boats of past centuries in scale 1/1200, sailing the seas to each other thanks to a system of maneuver cards similar to what we know well, after many years of air duels between biplanes.

Similar but not identical: recreate the challenges in the seas and play the difficulties linked to navigation required a complete rehabilitation. "The distinct personality and behavior deeply different of a great ship compared to an airplane of the twentieth century have allowed us to reinvent the game and find innovative ideas, but keeping it consistent with logic and the principles that have inspired Wings of Glory" says Andrea Mainini, co-author of Sails of Glory.

The first series of models, which will see its debut in the summer of 2012, Napoleonic-era ships will play, but if the game will have the success hoped for, it is very likely that these will follow the boats of other historical periods such as the age of discovery, the middle ages and antiquity.

In fact, the Wings of Glory has lent for years to unofficial adaptations to other worlds, by fans around the world. Intents related to thought by Andrea Angiolino, co-author of the original system, which States "since the first publication of" Wings of War "were convinced that the game system was also used in other settings." The author never did mystery variants spread network enthusiasts, indeed we have seen recently involved in an attempt to list them all (on this page). Sails of Glory is the first official product that has developed together with Andrea Mainini with an emphasis on playability, the historical accuracy and attention to detail thumbnails like the Wings of War/Wings of Glory that realized together with Pier Giorgio Paglia.

With this move the fledgling Ares Games continues to fuel expectations of buying players from around the world (after the first two recent announcements of the new edition of the war of the ring and system Wings of Glory) but also shows that they do not want to limit its production under titles "orphans" NGI disappearance.

From here to the summer of 2012 we expect new details and previews about ships that attraccheranno on our game tables (which unfortunately are not yet available images), but we advise you to stay tuned on our pages, your favorite editing has already embarked to discover all the details to know about this exciting new publishing project. Expect one of our usual scoop!

11th ACR02 Oct 2011 1:02 p.m. PST
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deflatermouse02 Oct 2011 1:19 p.m. PST

I'd go for it. Been trying to do Sail for 20 years now. (started with Wooden Ships and Iron Men.)
I'd do it big time.

Dark Knights And Bloody Dawns02 Oct 2011 2:02 p.m. PST

Wooden Ships and Iron Men was a fantastic game!

David Manley02 Oct 2011 2:03 p.m. PST

"Wooden Ships and Iron Men was a fantastic game!"

still is :)

Angus9902 Oct 2011 3:32 p.m. PST

Our homegrown version was called Wooden Walls and Iron Balls.

Grumpy Monkey02 Oct 2011 5:47 p.m. PST

I agree with WSaIM, we still play that around here also, love that game

Personal logo Murphy Sponsoring Member of TMP02 Oct 2011 7:24 p.m. PST

Always wanted to learn to play WSaIM correctly. I was "taught" by some jerks that were power gamers…ruined it for me and I didn't touch sailing games for almost 20 years….

Lion in the Stars05 Oct 2011 5:06 a.m. PST

But who carries Nexus product in the US, so my LGS can get this in stock?

WarpSpeed06 Oct 2011 4:24 p.m. PST

Wooden Ships….truly a great game ,sorry that somebody spoiled it for you Murphy.

poiter5008 Oct 2011 7:10 p.m. PST

Lion in the Stars, it is not a Nexus product, Ares Games will produce SOG. Nexus has been shut down AFAIK.

Lion in the Stars10 Oct 2011 3:10 a.m. PST

Ok, so who carries Ares Games product in the US.

If my LGS can't get it, I am NOT willing to buy it online myself!

11th ACR30 Oct 2011 3:19 p.m. PST

Update info: aresgames.eu/546

11th ACR02 Nov 2011 7:26 a.m. PST
VonTed25 Feb 2012 5:38 a.m. PST

Any updates?

11th ACR25 Feb 2012 11:41 a.m. PST

Not hearing any new info.

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skyking2025 Feb 2012 6:13 p.m. PST

Is there a place to find a complete list of the WW1 planes released for the WoW system?
sky

Lion in the Stars25 Feb 2012 10:20 p.m. PST

Sorta-update: aresgames.eu/1866 but it's from November 1st.

VonTed26 Feb 2012 7:49 a.m. PST

I hate it when I a game I am interested in doesn't give me updates to keep me happy! :)

Mollinary26 Feb 2012 8:11 a.m. PST

I wish they'd hurry up – this is EXACTLY what I have been waiting for. For over forty years!

Mollinary

VonTed24 Mar 2012 6:15 p.m. PST

BUMP. Any news?

11th ACR25 Mar 2012 10:39 a.m. PST

Ain't heard a thing!

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Timmo uk09 Apr 2012 8:28 a.m. PST

No news for a while now. I can't see it coming out this year though I hope I'm wrong. I'm intending to buy the models if they are reasonable to play an adapted game of WS&IM.

Lion in the Stars09 Apr 2012 9:52 a.m. PST

Nothing on the Ares games website indicating it's anywhere near production, and no news since that last article I linked.

Timmo uk11 Apr 2012 1:11 p.m. PST

I suspect they have got their hands full with trying to get the WW1 aircraft back in the stores. They said April for the big bombers and there's no indication that they will meet that date.

dantheman11 Apr 2012 4:14 p.m. PST

I am really interested in this one. I am active in Age of Sail and played most major rules out there. The chart driven mechanics often bog down play in almost all rule sets. It is hard to simulate the technical detail of ship movement and fire because it is complex.

I see cards as the best way to simplify the complexity. Read the card and make the move/fire. As I own enough ships to fight all the major battles from the SYW on I am disappointed that you need to buy the ships to get the rules. I would be interested in the cards and ship data cards.

Mako1111 Apr 2012 6:14 p.m. PST

Try Beat to Quarters 4.0.1 rules, which are available for free, on the internet, with a little searching.

Great fun, easy to learn and play, and give a decent result for single, ship vs. ship actions, or full fleet battles.

Enjoy!

Keraunos13 Apr 2012 3:43 a.m. PST

I would have though sails of canvass would be more useful, but I'm a land lubber, so what do I know

Timmo uk14 Apr 2012 7:24 a.m. PST

Dantheman

I'm not sure you would need to buy the ships to get the rules unless I've miss read something. If they follow the Wings of War (now Glory) model there will be rules sets available with and without models.

I'm sure you wouldn't have much trouble selling the ships anyway. Although I've not much wargames fund at the moment I can't wait to see these as I want to try out a new rigging method on them.

rabbit20 Apr 2013 12:03 p.m. PST

I missed Salute today where I understand they were running trials of the new ARES game Sails of Glory

Any one have a go?

Any Pics?

Are the models 1/1200 scale as suggested and are they pre painted?

Thanks in anticipation

rabbit

Charlie 1220 Apr 2013 2:08 p.m. PST

rabbit- The ships are 1/1000 (not 1/1200) and will be prepainted. What over-the-top price they're going to gouge people for them is anybody's guess.

Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP20 Apr 2013 5:54 p.m. PST

Id be in for AWI battles. Maybe only a ship or two per side. That's all I could afford!

rabbit21 Apr 2013 12:39 p.m. PST

@ Coastal, Thanks, I was hoping to use Langton or Navwar to get around the costs, just like do for Wings of W

looks like they expected that

thanks anyway

rabbit

Joe Legan21 Apr 2013 1:32 p.m. PST

I didn't play at salute but watched a partial game and picked up a ship that was sunk. The ships are big but look kinda cheap. The sails particularly are plastic and look it. I was disappointed in how they look considering the aircraft look so good. That said the game looks fun except the ships move very slowly.

Cheers

Joe

admrobbo28 Apr 2013 11:11 a.m. PST

I too was at Salute ans had the same conclusions re cheapness, however when I asked, they were keen to inform everyone that they only had the prototype and final version will be better.

Sails were I painted etc in the version they had. Final version will be fully painted, but still plastic.

admrobbo28 Apr 2013 11:13 a.m. PST

Sorry…… iPad spell check trauma !!! Sails were unpainted in the prototype .

Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP29 Apr 2013 12:02 p.m. PST

I'm not only excited about this but also hoping it leads to am ancient naval game as well

devsdoc29 Apr 2013 5:57 p.m. PST

I think you will have a long wait!
Be safe
Rory

clifblkskull17 May 2013 6:18 p.m. PST

I am not sure why these are not shipped and out by now.
I looked at their Kickstart page and they made TRIPLE the money they needed and stated they would ship by early April.
I would like to see how they look etc.
Clif

poiter5017 May 2013 9:28 p.m. PST

I think you will find that the Kickstarter funding period finished in April 2013 and sending of pledged pieces was occurring in Aug 2013.

Lion in the Stars17 May 2013 10:11 p.m. PST

I looked at their Kickstart page and they made TRIPLE the money they needed

That's barely a successful kickstarter…

Even the Monster Hunters International RPG cleared that mark!

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