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abdul666lw16 Sep 2011 10:19 p.m. PST

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(from the French blog: link ; the 'werewolf' is a Wolfen from the defunct -but soon to be ressurected?- Rackham 'Confrontation' range; some Reaper 'Lupines' link look not dissimilar.)

abdul666lw16 Sep 2011 10:29 p.m. PST

Not the kind of encounter 'Emperor vs Elector' emperor-elector.blogspot.com members are accustomed to, yet known, if rare, in 18th C. settings. Indeed even among countries represented in this 'League of 18th C. Imagi-Nations' Ardoberg has its wildest part plagued by werewolves link and Saint-Maurice suffered a zombie invasion link ; some *very* link weird events link in Galatea passed unnoticed against the background of the war of independence.
Elsewhere such 'weirdness' are reported to occur in Eastern Europe link , and are a constant concern in antipodial Pangaea link where for centuries the Underworld is put to fire and the sword by the struggle between 'the Damned Followers of the Bat and the Grand Order of the Wolf' link . But -though as yet not involving the native wendigo- such incidents seem to be specially less uncommon in the New Continent link : zombies appear in Canada link and in the British Colonies link , which are also haunted by 'Cthuluesque' beings link and various monstrosities link .
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Note that such 'weird' encounters are less uncommon at sea: pirates are reported to quite often meet cannibals, sea monsters

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link , zombies, 'Deep Ones' link /
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(Scheltrum) / link , comely cavegirls & irascible dinosaurs
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, King Kong, 'normal'
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(human: link ) and octopus-faced cultists
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if not Great Cthulhu itself. Thus it's only a matter to extending this 'biodiversity' to (or *under*, Pellucidar en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pellucidar fashion) dry land.

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The image comes from a report by a French player link of his first game of Lovecraft-inspired 'Strange Aeons' link , and illustrates his conclusion that such adventures can be set in any place and time of Human History, from Antiquity (with reference to the Xipehuz link by the author of 'The quest for fire' link I'd correct: from prehistoric times) to space hulks; indeed Cthulhu and its kind started recruiting cultists as soon as Humankind was receptive to dream suggestions.
The author specially refers to the 18th C. with 'monster hunting' expeditions in Nouvelle-France, the Carpathians or simply French Gevaudan link (indeed H.P.L. himself felt like 'a man of the 18th C.', and wrote several novels rooted in the 'tricorne era': 'The lurking fear' link , 'C.D. Ward' link , 'Arthur Jermyn' link , 'He' link , 'The Shunned House' link …).
Lovecraft's Ancient Ones and their minions were here before Humankind, thus to restrict 'Cthulhuesque' games to the 1920 is to be faithful to the letter, not to the *spirit* of the novels : one can play in any period one likes and already has a few 'human' minis for; the 'monsters' link of course don't change.

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The same is true, of course, of 'Pulp' link / 'Horror' link games: 'Chaos in Carpathia' link for instance can be played with figurines in tricornes.
From Le Fanu en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmilla to the creators of 'Twilight' all authors agree on the single point: vampires cannot be distinguished from 'us', and thus *don't need special minis* [though, if you *really* want some: females: (Foundry; also some males) tinyurl.com/6ddphxh ; male: (Reaper) link ].
'Naked' werewolves and ghouls link can be used in any setting;
figurines of 18th C. zombies

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are few, but the best way to have zombies in 'period' costume is simply to 'customize' (35th post in the thread: TMP link ) normal minis (comment: link ).

Even Malifaux link despite its bizarre and original background can be played with 18th C. figurines. For an 'isolated' enough location, what about a remote, backwards area of hills, forests and swamps, largely depopulated by a plague generations ago and 'repulsive' to newcomers. Due to malnutrition and inbreeding, most of the native population is as degenerated as the worst cases in Dunwich link . Indeed the true 'natives' have turned to cannibalism ( link ) favoring the spread of a TSE causing apparent 'ghoulification' link : use 'ghouls' figurines

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. But they know where to find soulstones link

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(Coming from 'historical' -well, almost- wargaming, I feel the concept of a 'compulsory' / 'inseparable' association "1 setting <-> 1 set of rules <-> 1 range of figurines" to be basically a marketing trick / consumer trap.)

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Many stories / potential scenarios are almost independent of time and place and can equally well imply 'normal human' or 'weird' aggressors. 'The 7 samurai' / 'The magnificent 7' / 'Battle beyond the stars' are 3 renditions of the same plot; 'Hair raising tale' link (Canada, 17th C.) and 'Guns for San Sebastian' link (Mexico, 18th C.) are again basically the same story with a single 'samurai'; 'Apache drums' is a " western", 'The 317th platoon' link is set in Indochina after the fall of Dien Bien Phu, 'Deliverance' link (civilian), 'Assault on Precinct 13' link (police), 'Dog soldiers' link (military) are contemporary; long sequences of 'King Arthur', 'The 13th Warrior' and 'Aliens' could be added. All share the same basic core: pitifully few fighters (only one, possibly) are surrounded and relentlessly harassed by swarms of (invisible more often than not) enemies; generally the 'player characters' try to exfiltrate themselves if alone, are besieged if protecting civilians. Any of these ('miniaturized' versions of Xenophon's Anabasis or 55 Days at Peking) could be set in Britain during Boudica's Revolt or South of the Hadrian Wall when the Roman presence was collapsing, in Eastern Russia during Pugachev's uprising, further East in parallel with Michel Strogoff's ride, or 'Back of Beyond' after the Russian Civil War… or in the setting of any other of the list.
For me I like the tricornes and justaucorps of the Lace Wars, and for the corresponding period (# 1715 – 1765) these parts of the Colonies or Canada on the fringe of 'unknown wilderness' look specially propitious to such 'adventures'.
Then, the borders of Great California, jungle surrounding the ruins of Maya temples link , bayous West of La Nouvelle Orleans haunted by degenerated cajuns / maroons half-breeds practicing weird cults link and worshiping strange idols

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, Florida, or the Easternmost marches of Russia from Siberia to the foothills of Caucasus, would be equally appropriate.
Or some Scandinavian wilderness: Trolls link don't have to be *huge* (reportedly they hide under bridges) but can be numerous: some kind of Bigfoot / Yetis -maybe the totally degenerated descendants of the 'Eaters of the dead' link ?

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Several VSF players have adapted Torchwood en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torchwood to the times of Verne and Wells. It make sense (note that, without 21st C. technology, the organization -a 'Society', by then- has to be far more numerous), but Torchwood can be far older: Francis Bacon link is a possible founder of this 'Secret Brotherhood' (called a 'Secret Lodge' by the 18th C.?); the name (implying 'to bring Light' [against Darkness]) maybe chosen by opposition to Wormwood YouTube link .
'Talkative' rogue members are unknown (they would be silenced in the most definitive manner), but characters such as Cyrano de Bergerac link and the Comte de Saint-Germain link seem to have heard of the activities of the Society / Lodge.


Note that other similar organizations may exist: specially within the Jesuits link , who beside evangelization are known for their implication in intellectual research and their militancy. Likely some of them are secretly devoted to studying (and definitively 'resolving') 'X Files', events of paranormal / supernatural appearance -though for them perfectly normal and natural, if belonging to the occult; while the Societas Jesu as a whole is under the patronage of Santa Maria Della Strada, this peculiar branch could well be under the protection of the Madonna Atra link worshiped in a crypt under the cathedral of Le Puy.
Several Spanish ranges (Napoleonics link , Carlists

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) have priests in tricorne, and Westwind Productions and others have 'active' priests that can be converted: adding a tricorne instantly 'tags' a mini "18th C.":
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(from Herrschaden link ).
Then, 18th C. Catholic priests when 'off duty' sometimes dressed in 'secular' all black costume, distinguished by the *collar*:
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Thus, miniatures of dragoons with buckled bottines and tricornes, painted all black with a collar added, could be a better representation of members of the Ecclesia Militans, the 'God's Marines' in their most … active role?
And… reportedly sometimes the Vatican enlisted the most unlikely (most 'beyond suspicion' of working for the Pope) agents TMP link
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wingnut21 Sep 2011 9:06 a.m. PST

You need to check out "Colonial Gothic" RPG.

abdul666lw21 Sep 2011 12:29 p.m. PST

Link to the publisher: link

A presentation: link
A review (1st Ed.?): link

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abdul666lw26 Sep 2011 5:08 a.m. PST

While intended for the 17th C. 'Witchfinder General: Days of Revelation' (ECW) dashingdicegames.com and 'Witch Hunter: The Invisible World' (Salem trials) link may be of use for the 18th C.?

abdul666lw27 Sep 2011 3:53 a.m. PST

A daylight encounter:

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from
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and a dungeoner's dream came true:

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from link

abdul666lw01 Oct 2011 2:37 p.m. PST

Thanks to a recent TMP post TMP link: the A Touch of Evil boardgame link and some of its supplements include (unpainted) plastic minis full of potential for any '18th C. pulp / Lacepulp' games (gallery: link), e.g.:

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richarDISNEY05 Oct 2011 7:09 p.m. PST

Who made the guy with the pistols???
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abdul666lw05 Oct 2011 10:19 p.m. PST

Black Scorpion 'Pirates 1'

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abdul666lw05 Oct 2011 10:25 p.m. PST

Btw, recent relevant thread on a 18th C. blog (18th C. D&D adventures, dungeon crawling, non-human races…):
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Lowtardog06 Oct 2011 6:02 a.m. PST

Where does the chap with the 2 pistols come from on first picture?

Stewbags06 Oct 2011 7:26 a.m. PST

Who is the lovely with the mask?

abdul666lw06 Oct 2011 9:45 a.m. PST

Monica Bellucci as Sylvia (a top level courtesan – cum – skilled killer – cum secret agent of the Vatican !! thumbs up)

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in 'Brotherhood of the Wolf' link thumbs up again!
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Specialist of poison and of the razorblades -edged fan:
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Eli Arndt06 Oct 2011 12:06 p.m. PST

Such encounters are really cool. I think that the 18th century is a great place for horror and suspense themed games.

I recall a low budget werewolf movie called Ginger Snaps: Ginger Snaps Back that has an isolated log fort in frontier America beseiged by werewolves in the dead of winter. It was very eerie.

-Eli

abdul666lw06 Oct 2011 12:18 p.m. PST

Since we are on The Miniature Page: several minis in the Shadowforge 'Laughing Monk' range link are clearly of the "I emphatically never saw that 'Brotherhood of the Wolf' movie" type; among them 'the Scarlet Woman' corresponds obviously to Sylvia:

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Unfortunately, her fan is thicker than a waffle iron…


Eli: game it and share with us!


Edited: clearly on-topic, at least for the minis:

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(if in the # 30mm range)
TMP link

Eli Arndt06 Oct 2011 12:29 p.m. PST

I'd love to, but my 18th century adventures are on hold while I try to complete other period projects.

-Eli

abdul666lw10 Oct 2011 1:21 p.m. PST

'Ravenous' en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ravenous is set in 1840, 'Ginger Snaps Back' link in 1815, but both could easily be re-located to the time of King Georges' War -and to any 'outlying' area bordering 'uncontrolled wilderness'.
And 'Pike and Shot and Zombies' link could be used for a transposition of 'Pride and Prejudice and Zombies' link to the time of Barry Lyndon -anyplace where there was a proud and prejudiced 'Upper Class'.
(For a dinosaur from the age of mechanical typewriters such as me, the idea of *video trailer* for a newly published *book* is… surprising. Yet both the prequel 'Dawn of the Dreadful' YouTube link and the sequel 'Dreadfully Ever After' YouTube link of 'Pride and Prejudice and Zombies' benefited from such an 'advert'.
As for the 'arranged' novel itself , some of the corresponding videos look fan-made:
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I like the idea of prudish, reserved damsels from the H&M conservative 'Upper Class' trained SAS-fashion to martial arts laugh).

Bob Faust of Strategic Elite14 Oct 2011 9:00 a.m. PST

….mmmmmmmm……Monica Belucci………

abdul666lw20 Oct 2011 1:58 p.m. PST

'True' Gypsies came from India, and Saint Sarah, their Saint Patron they come in pilgrimage to venerate underground at the Saintes Maries de la Mer link (probably a 'recycled' Black Madonna link?) is called in their tongue Sara e Kali link.
This strongly suggests the possibility of a 'Strangler Cult' en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thuggee among the Gypsies -utterly secret, of course, and specially towards other Romani link, who feel already mistreated and mistrusted more than enough by the gadje link.
Thus anywhere in Europe 18th C. 'Pulp' adventurers may have to face Gypsy Thuggees -unknowingly supported by a loose but omnipresent network…

abdul666lw21 Oct 2011 1:26 a.m. PST

gold star An exciting project to watch:
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(even if in 15mmn unfortunately… old fart)

abdul666lw24 Oct 2011 1:34 a.m. PST

More about Carnevale>: vesper-on.com

Pics or the minis are progressively uploaded. The 'human' ones are pleasant, and some of very general usefulness

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The 'Rashaar' are Lovecraft's 'Deep Ones' link

abdul666lw02 Dec 2011 4:35 a.m. PST

Potentially useful:
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abdul666lw05 Dec 2011 6:04 a.m. PST

The comics short series The Marquis link is a very good, if a little extreme, example of Lacepulp:

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About Carnevale:
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A few ± recent Lovecraftian monstrosities (#i>failed attempt of resurrection / living & growing corpse-'The shunned house' type):
Zenit:
Graft: link
Patch: link
Rotten: link

Enigma Taban:
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(Hell Dorado) Flesh demon:

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Kingdom Death (without the 'peripherals':
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abdul666lw13 Dec 2011 5:28 a.m. PST

Relevant post: playing Malifaux in the 18th C. TMP link

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