"Late Successor Generals, were they up for the fight?" Topic

Did late Successor Generals fight up front and personal in the style of Alexander or were they more command and control leaders?

I am contemplating either a standard mounted base for the general or a fancy diorama one. Obviously if the Generals fought at the head of their elite cavalry or infantry, I would have go with a more basic size base.

Raglan

Mad dog crazy killers to a man barring Eumemes, who would still have a fight.

Most later Successor generals were more laid back… but there were many who at least led to the front- if not actually getting stuck in. Nobody as combat crazy as Pyrrhus or as foolish as Ptolemy Keraunos-- lesson learned.

Antiochus III to his detriment often got himself too far forward. Philopoemen, (not a *bleeping* king) is the most heroic and killed a faux king by his own hand. Philometer suffered a fatal wound while leading his army. Attalus I, and Eumenes II of Pergamum were an outstanding and able commanders, and were a major cause of both the Seleucid and Macedonian demise. Few others stand out among the crowds of later losers. Especially the Macedonian kings.. who some have claimed left the field in Darius like fashion.

Scopas the Aetolian seemed to be somebody of merit, but was on the losing side.
JJ

According to Appain, at Magnesia with his heavy cavarly, "Antiochus, on the right, broke through the Roman line of battle, dismembered it, and pursued a long distance." As pointed out, possibly a distance too far…

I think the fate of the Early Successor Generals, who only had one or two that actually died in bed, discouraged the following generals from getting so involved in the battles.

For our little hobby, why not?
If you are doing something for a museum, or for educational purposes then it would have to be on a General by General basis.

I read somewhere that Ptolemy IV killed a Seleucid war elephant with a sarissa at Raphia. That would be cool.

yes, they were definately expected to lead from the front – these guys all rode with Alexander afterall, and there are lots of stories from the diadochai wars of them trying to seek each other out for single combat.

my namesake was just a nutter though – 'Gauls? just a raiding party, me and my bodyguard can handle them ourselves, no need to aassemble the army ' …

"I read somewhere that Ptolemy IV killed a Seleucid war elephant with a sarissa at Raphia. That would be cool."

----> Sorry that is incorrect. Indolent tubster Ptolemy IV couldn't kill a snail if Sosibius lifted up his foot to do it.
The story you are referring to was his Diadochoi progenitor, Ptolemy I, who wounded an elephant at the battle of the camel fort at Pelusium in the first round of the Diadochian wars.

Ptolemy IV was at least given credit for returning to the battle and with some help from Arsinoe baring her breasts :) may have inspired the machimoi.

Anyway the question was not about the first generation of Successor generals.. but later versions… the inept ones.
JJ

Eleazar ha-Chorani (meaning "The Flattened One") holds a special place in the generalship of the period.

Amicalement,

Allen

Eleazar ha-Chorani (meaning "The Flattened One"), and his brother..yes… and Nikanor for being run down and having his sword taken :) So when is Nikanor day? A day before or after Mordecai Day?
JJ

Which Nicanor? Amongst the Macedonians, "Nicanor" was as common as "Bubba" is amongst the Alabamans.

Amicalement,

Allen

Nicanor the one who lost his sword to Judas. (or Nikanor).

Sword? I thought he lost his hand.

Amicalement,

Allen