Cacique Caribe | 11 Apr 2011 9:11 a.m. PST |
As an alternative to all this repetitive carving . . . link Is there anything like a hand-held roller (not plates), that will easily press in a continuous brick or block texture on your extruded polystyrene (blue board, and the like)? There are already roller stamps for ink and paint. And there are rollers to emboss textures on concrete, polymer clay and fondant frosting: link picture auction auction auction auction You can even make your own textured clay roller: link link NOTE: This topic, however, is about something harder and sharper. Because insulation (XPS) foam has a tendency to bounce back after time, the tool would have to be specially made to leave deep marks, or shallow "cuts". And to keep the pressure even and the course straight, two adjustable roller "guides" could be attached to either side of the actual roller. How would that sound? Just wondering if anyone had already come up with such an idea yet. And if there isn't anything like it yet, just remember you heard it here first! :) Thanks, Dan |
Cacique Caribe | 11 Apr 2011 9:27 a.m. PST |
And I don't mean a monstrous (and expensive) contraption like this either: link link Dan |
evilcartoonist | 11 Apr 2011 10:06 a.m. PST |
I was just at Hobby Lobby, and they had small rollers for embossing thin metal sheets. No stone patterns, though. (They had repeating diamonds and chevrons.) Still, maybe there's more metal rollers to be discovered. |
jpattern2 | 11 Apr 2011 10:20 a.m. PST |
If you heated a metal or porcelain roller, I wonder if the impression in the foam would be more permanent? Watch out for fumes, though. As for heating it, I'd set up a hot plate, heat an iron skillet, roll the roller on the skillet until it was hot, roll it on the foam, and repeat. Of course, it might not work at all. I'd use thin sheets of Sculpey, emboss them, then glue them to the foam. |
Cacique Caribe | 11 Apr 2011 10:26 a.m. PST |
"I'd use thin sheets of Sculpey, emboss them, then glue them to the foam." That was actually my original plan. But after a couple of attempts, I started wondering if there was an easier way. Thanks. Dan |
elsyrsyn | 11 Apr 2011 10:48 a.m. PST |
I've been trying to get someone with a laser engraver to try and do this sort of thing on foam for a while now. Seems to me it might work, if the duration of the cut in any given spot was set correctly. Doug |
CeruLucifus | 11 Apr 2011 10:49 a.m. PST |
What about taking a hot wire cutter and making a grid out of the wire? You'd probably also want a hot engraving tool for adding details. Or going the other direction, gluing down textured sheet? Sheet styrene is available in stone or cobblestone patterns. Also Christmas village sets have vinyl roads in brick or cobblestone if that fits the scale you are working in. Last, I've read about people using textured wallpaper for this. |
TheBeast | 11 Apr 2011 10:59 a.m. PST |
Not sure about a roller, but could swear I've seen open grid metal plates with patterns that had sharp edges that could be pressed into foam. Of course, I could be thinking of something for cake decorating. I think they could make continuous patterns. Press, lift, move, match edge, press
Doug |
elsyrsyn | 11 Apr 2011 12:24 p.m. PST |
For that matter, I suppose you could take a finer mesh (say 1/8") and snip out bits to make a running bond pattern, then use it (possibly heated with a torch) to emboss that onto foam. Seems like a big pain in the butt, though. Doug |
Cacique Caribe | 11 Apr 2011 12:30 p.m. PST |
Doug, Wow. Lots of work initially, to cut every other bit into staggered rectangles. But could work, if the mesh doesn't warp with all that cutting. I might try a small piece as a test. Now, if it could be wound up around a wheel, so as to make a continuous rolling pattern . . . Thanks!!! Dan |
The G Dog | 11 Apr 2011 12:56 p.m. PST |
How about as an alternative 'flexible stone walls' choochenterprises.com You might be able to pair the walls with the tunnel portals. |
Man of Few Words | 11 Apr 2011 1:44 p.m. PST |
I was wondering when some else would discover Chooch. Great products. Bought flex walls even without a project for them. |
jpattern2 | 11 Apr 2011 5:23 p.m. PST |
Yeah, I've been using Chooch, too, for years. Great stuff. |
Jeff01 | 12 Apr 2011 10:51 a.m. PST |
I tried pressing one of those "Made By [name]
" electric branding irons ( marketed for burning wood ) into extruded foam once. Terribly messy ( fortunately the residue burnt off ) and the effect on the foam was junk. So I'm skeptical a "hot plate" solution is ever likely to work on a hobbyist scale. I'd be tempted to resort to a "home" CNC routing machine such as ( link or a Craftsman CompuCarve etc. ) if money is not an object or you think you can recoup the costs. |
Cacique Caribe | 13 Apr 2011 11:38 a.m. PST |
Ok guys, Let me know what you think of these two crazy attempts: link The two bottom strips have a very light wash with black acrylic paint, to bring out the detail of the light impressions a bit more. For this experiment, the strips are just one inch wide and 6 inches long. However, the tool on the right can be adjusted for a wider strip. Thanks, Dan PS. In case you are wondering, the 1cm extruded polystyrene is (Cell Foam 88) sold at Hobby Lobby: link link TMP link |
Cacique Caribe | 13 Apr 2011 1:19 p.m. PST |
I also added a few pictures that show how I cut the one-inch extruded polystyrene strips. link Pretty primitive-looking. But works well for my project. Dan |
Cacique Caribe | 13 Apr 2011 2:37 p.m. PST |
link link For the one on the right, I used the following: - One 2-inch long machine screw (size 8, with 32 threads) - Nine nuts (size 8, with 32 threads), though you only really need 7 of them. The ones in the middle need to be same outer diameter. - Two wide-hole plastic beads with grooved edges* - Two 1/8" by 1" washers - Four small washers (size 6)* Hope that helps, if anyone is trying to duplicate it. Dan * The two plastic beads and the four small washers were a really tight squeeze. Took a while to work them in. |
Cacique Caribe | 15 Apr 2011 4:30 a.m. PST |
Guys, I'm going to try using these next time, to get a deeper and more defined impression: link How does that sound? Dan |
Given up for good | 15 Apr 2011 6:28 a.m. PST |
Take care if you use link The outer clip is loose and will wobble about (use lots in the job) – then again that may give an interesting effect or not
E-mail sent ref the three you sent |
Cheomesh | 17 Apr 2011 8:17 a.m. PST |
I'd like to see how that turns out; would be nice to have buildings in the 15mm terrain collection I'm making that aren't simply smooth sided! I've never heard of Chooch – strange that years of wargaming never invoked that name. M. |
Cacique Caribe | 18 Apr 2011 5:04 p.m. PST |
Hey guys, I just ordered these, to see if I could find an easier way to create an embossing roller: auction The only thing is that the hole is going to be too small for using the hardware store solution. Dan |