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HistoriFigs11 May 2004 8:24 a.m. PST

Now that we have finished our new 28mm figures for use as Col. Glover's ( Marblehead ) Regiment, I'm wondering what this regiment might have carried as a standard, or did they even have one?

If you have ever considered building Col. Glover's Regiment for your 28mm wargame army, now is the time! We are just beginning to release our brand new 28mm "Marbleheads" & "Sailors" We have 7 new figures to represent this regiment – pictures should be posted on our website – historifigs.com – tonight…

Anyhow, thanks in advance for any information of which standard, if any this unit might have carried. – Mike Taber

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP11 May 2004 9:48 a.m. PST

I have Richardson's tome on Flags and Standards of the AWI. There are a series of plates on the "Steadman" (? sorry, I'm at work, and my Richardson is at home.) colors. Flags for the Lads has a few wheets on these. In the lack of anything better to go by, I was going to try to match one of them with a Massachusetts theme. If Richardson has any more concrete information, I will report on it when I get home later today.

I already have Eureka's Marbleheaders, BTW. I better, I "commissioned" them! But is they look good, I have never turned my nose up at mixing good looking fogurews together. The more the merrier, I say.

aecurtis Fezian11 May 2004 10:01 a.m. PST

I think the Glover's green on the Historifigs site looks great, Mike. Looking forward to seeing the rest.

Liek John, I've got a bunch of the Eureka figures; I helped him fill out the number necessary to go into production. Also like John, I look forward to using yours, too! A number of units from southern Maine (such as were raised for the Badaduce expedition) also had a proportion of seamen, and Glover's figures would do nicely for those, too.

Are you going to KublaCon, by any chance?

I don't recall any information on colours for the 14th Continental Regiment. There used to be a reenactment group in Marblehead, but its Web presence seems to have disappeared. I was just planning on using a typical New England "protest" flag...

Allen

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP11 May 2004 10:17 a.m. PST

Good grief, my typing in my last post. I picked a bad week to give up opium smoking.

I will leave a translation of what I meant as an exercise for the student. Hint: "fogurew" = "figure".

aecurtis Fezian11 May 2004 11:33 a.m. PST

Hmm. I had assumed "fogurews" was some obscure Pennsylvania term for "potables", and that it was your enthusiasm for mixing them that was the reason for phrases such as "But is they look good"...

Better drop by Li Fong's for a little relaxation. 8^)

Allen

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP11 May 2004 12:04 p.m. PST

Too can play the nitpiker game, Allan. "Liek John", eh?

Fogurew is a drink made from the Mountain Laurel, the Official Weed of the Commonwealth (NOT STATE!!) of Pennsylvania. We use it to poison snotty upstarts from Maine. It is served with Nanticoke kielbasa and Lancaster scrapple.

HistoriFigs11 May 2004 12:29 p.m. PST

Thanks for the info so far...
If you have seen the picture of the "green" on our website and like it, you will really like the finished figures.

Allen; I won't be at KublaCon this year - going north to Enfilade! this year. Right now we are planning to attend Conquest in September. We are also looking at putting on a North Bay Games Day (July or August). - Mike Taber

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP11 May 2004 6:12 p.m. PST

I could find nothing, but try the reenactor's home page for Glover's Marbleheaders:

gloversregiment.org

If anyone would know, it would be them.

John the OFM

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP11 May 2004 6:27 p.m. PST

Try this:

link

It seems to be a bodice-ripper novel, starring a Miss Glover, intimately associated with John Glover's regiment, but interestingly enough, the chapters are set apart by one of Allen's "protest" rattlesnake flags.

Sadly, unless a group like the Philadelphia Light Horse has managed to hold on to their Sacred Standard and keep it locked up in their own National Guard Armory to this very day, we are forced to make guesses about AWI flags. I have read that captured Hessian standards were cut up as souvenirs. Gack.

My Richardson is out on loan, but I don't remember any specific flag for Glover's. Sorry.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP11 May 2004 6:32 p.m. PST

Oh, my. The above link is part of a massive Buffy the Vampire Slayer fan fiction group. Seems like impeccable vexillological research to me.

aecurtis Fezian11 May 2004 10:30 p.m. PST

Jon suggested the Glover's Marbleheaders' reenactment Website. Trust them not!!! The treasonous scum are portraying British sailors at the raid on Falmouth later this month.

Curses on Mowatt and all his ilk!

Allen

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP12 May 2004 4:18 a.m. PST

Allen, you've never painted Bad Guys before?

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP12 May 2004 2:59 p.m. PST

I contacted the Webmaster for the Glover's reenactor's group, and he told me:

"I forwarded your query to the Regiment. Please let me know if you get no
answer.

When Glover's men left the Regiment on detached service to man the first
ships of the Continental navy,they flew the flag you see on this web page:

flagspot.net/flags/us-wacr.html

However the regimental standard for the 14th Reg. is probably different and
I'll let the rest of the Historically intune people answer that."

Like Allen guessed, it's a "protest" flag. If I learn more, I will follow up.

All this from Google, the Wargamer's Buddy. I always liked John Glover and his band of merry men. It was information I needed myself anyway, since they are primed and ready for paint. A few new recruits would not hurt. Expect an order soon, Mike.

aecurtis Fezian12 May 2004 3:35 p.m. PST

John, most conflicts have two points of view. Often, "bad guys" are relative. But there are some subjects that are simply too distasteful for me to represent on the wargames table. I will never paint SS. I will never paint Torquemada. And I will never, ever paint Captain Mowatt.

Allen

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