"Sky King's (Hangar 18 FASA) - Does anyone have them yet?" Topic

I see these are now on sale

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I must say they look epic! Buck Rogers/Flash Gordon meets Crimson Skies/WWII = win!

They seem to be quite large (i.e. flying fortress is 7cm x 7cm – one zepplin is 15cm)

If you have them:
What's your opinion on the finished model?

How do they scale with say 1:600 fighters (or 1:1200) – the terrain also looks useful for other games

What rules would you use with them?

…I'm trying to find a justification to purchase them beyond 'they look kewl' but I have so much unpainted stuff atm…

Great designs.

Awhile ago I had bought three battlestars and a small group of support ships from the ebay store.

They are cast in resin with a few defects though they cleaned up nicely. I believe the maker is somewhat new to this, but has put forth good effort.

Though, I haven't had a chance at owning any of his other lines yet so I can't help you with the fighter scale stuff he has.

I'm also curious, does anyone know how the Hangar 18 BSG stuff scales to Studio Bergstrom or any of the other lines out there?

I'd say the terrain which is based to be compatible with the Heroscape (IIRC?) terrain hexes will work wonderfully with 1/600th aircraft, according to comments on SCN.

The flyers themselves are probably pretty large for 1/600th by all reports.

Looking forward to picking up some of these later in the Spring.

I have the terrain and plan to use it for War Rocket 1/300 games. It will be a little small for my purposes, but I'm not sweating it.

28mm: "Great designs."

It's probably because most of them are cut up and converted models. I wonder if he got permission from any of the original models' owners. I'm positive GW didn't consent to having their Battlefleet Gothic turrets reused.

Making the terrain pieces compatible with Heroscape is a move of genius. I already use Heroscape hexes for BattleTech. Now I can add these…

Pffft – Complaining about BFG-esq turrets is like saying putting Ferrarri headlights in a Ford makes it a Ferrarri ripoff…

Terrain IS cool and if fits with heroscape, so much the better.

So no one has the pulp planes yet???

"Pffft – Complaining about BFG-esq turrets is like saying putting Ferrarri headlights in a Ford makes it a Ferrarri ripoff…"

Not LIKE, they ARE the BFG turrets. If you want me to I could point out a bunch of other places where he recast other people's models in the pulp rocket lines. Heck, his Battlestar line is all recasts. And again, his tiles fit heroscape pieces because…surprise surprise, they're bits glued to heroscape pieces. :)

I don' know copyright laws very well, but chopping up parts like that are generally illegal, aren't they?

I looked up some old FASA Battlestars and the ones I have look to fit perfectly so what wolfgang's saying is true.

So it looks like we might have some infringement going on here. If that's true, I feel bad for buying them in the first place.

What are your guy's thoughts?

I know what you mean. Some of his stuff, especially the terrain pieces, are really nice and creative. On the other hand this kind of chop shop stuff bugs the hell out of me.

Some of those pieces look just plain stupid – well actually, most of the aircraft do. Unfortunately, it's all variations on a theme. All the lovely detail bits that you generally see on movie spacecraft are pulled in bulk from commercially available plastic kits, usually copied in resin if necessary and plastered all over your favorite filming miniature which is then reproduced in plastic perhaps by the very kit company whom you pirated the detailing bits from and to whom you charge a license fee for producing your spacecraft kit… Just varying degrees of useage but where do you draw the line?

Cloudy:

I would imagine that if the bits were small enough, or modified enough when encompassed in the new piece there would be no real issue (and personally, if there is a great deal of difference, I wouldn't mind it). Considering the fact that all models/miniatures/kits are all formed out of the same basic geometric shapes. Though pieces that are taken in whole and then incorporated or otherwise directly derived seems a bit unwholesome.

As such, as far as his Battlestar line is concerned, it really is just cut and paste with the designs.

Not sure about the Sky Kings line, since I'm not familiar with any similar craft. So as such I'd have no way of noticing.

The terrain pieces seem original to me, aside from the Heroscape hex bases they were originally built upon.

It was just a rhetorical question. One of the useless things that I'm good at is looking at a spaceship model and figuring out what base kits the parts came from. This occupies a lot of time for those who care in the Studio Scale Model section of the Replica Prop Forum…

From the top of my head, I can recognize B-24 (seems to be the most popular part…) and B-25 fuselages and tail assemblies and if I took the time to zoom in a bit, I could probably tell you what other aircraft were chopped up in the process. The original models that were chopped up appear to be somewhat crude though so it becomes problematical…