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theangrylurker18 Nov 2010 2:32 a.m. PST

Got a problem with Vallejo russian green at the moment,need a bit of help.

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Rod Langway18 Nov 2010 3:13 a.m. PST

Well that sucks, just went and double-checked, was in the same boat as you, needing to finish a project, and made an online order for three additional bottles. Figured they just changed the name when double checking the codes, and an initial test showed it to be the same color (even though the bottle showed a much lighter green).

Just did a side by side test on a white piece of paper, and the Camo Olive Green does appear to be the exact same base color as Russian Green, only slightly lighter (would make a perfect dry-brush color to Russian Green). Now the only question remains, is this a permanent change? Hate it when paint companies do this…..

Rod Langway18 Nov 2010 3:27 a.m. PST

Follow-up, just did a bit of testing. The Camo Olive Green looked exactly like my Russian Green dry-brush color (which is merely RG mixed with maybe 1/6 white). So I did the opposite, added a bit of black to some Camo Olive Green and the color came out as a near exact copy of Russian Green. If all else fails, this may be an alternative.

Would also be interested in hearing if anyone knows of a US source that still carries the original Russian Green though, could use a few extra bottles just in case.

Jeigheff18 Nov 2010 5:03 a.m. PST

Hi angrylurker,

I have a bottle of Vallejo Russian Green that is probably about two years old and has barely been touched. I'd be happy to share it with you for free.

A minute ago, I tried to send you an email message via your web site, but got an error message when I clicked on "Dead Money Guy." If you'll send me a PM, I'll get your paint in the mail.

Jeff

Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP18 Nov 2010 5:12 a.m. PST

Please keep in mind that Vallejo makes two Russian Green paints. The one in the Panzer series is different than the regular old Model Color.

The old Model 894 Russian Green is still (AFAIK) an active item and I stock it myself though I'm down to my last bottle I believe. If you need a couple bottles I'm happy to get them for you.

It's also not unusual for the name/description to vary from batch to batch even though the code and paint are the same.

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theangrylurker18 Nov 2010 7:11 a.m. PST

Jeigheff: Might take you up on that.

Extra Crispy: Will take 4 russian green off you.

theangrylurker18 Nov 2010 7:14 a.m. PST

My email is deadmoneyguy@yahoo.co.uk.

Evil Bobs Miniature Painting18 Nov 2010 7:34 a.m. PST

Mark,

If you check the Vallejo website it seems they have replaced Russian Green with Med Olive Green. Go to the brochure PDF and download it and check the number and position number.

It may be they just renamed it and the slight color variation is 'normal' and not a change of the formula.

I guess we'd have to talk to someone from Vallejo to know for sure.

Rod Langway18 Nov 2010 8:45 a.m. PST

Just spoke with Miniature Market and they stated that the old Vallejo Russian Green has now been replaced with the Med Olive Green. This is very unfortunate. Mark, if you are able to get stock of the old Russian Green please let me know, in addition to the bottles lurker needs, could use three myself.

Thanks,

CW

Rod Langway18 Nov 2010 8:47 a.m. PST

FWIW, as I stated above, the Med. Olive Green is definitely not the same color, but a lighter shade (have checked all three bottles I have), so either some mixing is in order, or some good luck in tracking down remaining supplies.

Sundance18 Nov 2010 3:35 p.m. PST

Don't have the names in front of my but IIRC there is a Russian Green, for armor, I believe, and Russian Uniform Green, which is significantly lighter.

Count Belisarius21 Nov 2010 2:17 p.m. PST

I went to my local Modelzone today as I only have a third of a pot of Russian Green left and still have a lot of Soviets to do. It has changed. Same code. Different name. Different colour.

Bloody annoying! I too am now searching the UK for a couple of pots of the 'real' Russian Green!

Andy

Count Belisarius13 Dec 2010 2:39 p.m. PST

Just to update on this, I had an email back from Vallejo today:

Dear Sir,

Please send us your regular mailing address, so that we may send you a
bottle of 894 , most recent manufacture. We congratulate you on your ability
to distinguish the difference, there were problems with pigments, and we
have been working hard to re-establish the exact shade, and think we are now
close to it. The reason we changed the name had to do with the Panzer
Series, please see the attached FAqs. We excerpt the pertinent info.


12.2. The Model Color reference 70.894 is shown on your color chart as
'Russian Green' but on the bottle it is shown as 'Cam. Olive Green, is this
a mistake? This reference was one of the first colors we manufactured for
models and miniatures, now some 17 years ago, and at that time our advisers
suggested this shade as "Russian Green". It is indeed a match for some of
the Russian uniforms used in WWII. But as we progressed to manufacture an
ever widening range of colors, always following the advice of experts, and
careful to match RAL, Federal Standard and RLM equivalencies, we found that
this particular green 70.894 was also a perfect match for RLM 80, Olive
Green. And while uniforms have many different shades, The RLM match is the
most specific, and it seemed correct to change the name accordingly

Very cordially,

Eugenie Vallejo Safranek
ACRYLICOS VALLEJO S.L.

Now this seems to imply they have been updating the pigment and that the latest version is closer to the original? If so, then I'll update when my new pot arrives!

Cheers

Andy

theangrylurker16 Dec 2010 7:13 a.m. PST

Thanks for that,apologies for the delay in responding.

Count Belisarius22 Dec 2010 5:36 p.m. PST

And another update! Details on my blog: link

Cheers

Andy

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